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Author Topic: Vote Mafia 8 (12/13) - Night 1: Trouble  (Read 34137 times)

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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #75 on: March 10, 2012, 05:46:57 pm »

I think I missed this?
TolyK: As scum, what (potentially realistic) vote power would you not want town to have?
If I were scum... inspects. Or maybe roleblocking.

Those aren't vote powers...?  ???

Well, there could be a vote power that disables the voted persons power.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #76 on: March 10, 2012, 07:02:32 pm »

Nice, real slick.  Obligatory "I'm not scum, I don't have buddies to brief me" reply.

What did you hope to accomplish from this, really?
A reason for posting late.

I work a lot; the game started at like 5 am for me, and I had a double shift.  I'm fairly certain there were others who had yet to post yet.

So sortof sit there, responding to things when directly prodded, throwing out questions here and there to give an illusion of activity?  Also, why unvote when you could be using your vote to do... well, anything?

It's RVS; I responded to my questions, started questioning others.  That's not an illusion of activity, that IS RVS activity.

My vote wasn't doing anything as it was; again, RVS.

Stuff about double voters not being as big a deal as I thought.

Okay, makes sense.  The risk of a double lynch is particularly nasty, so I'll claim: I am a Hated Double Voter.

Dariush: Why don't you think specific roles will have a significant impact?
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #77 on: March 10, 2012, 10:19:09 pm »

I work a lot; the game started at like 5 am for me, and I had a double shift.  I'm fairly certain there were others who had yet to post yet.
Fair enough.

It's RVS; I responded to my questions, started questioning others.  That's not an illusion of activity, that IS RVS activity.

My vote wasn't doing anything as it was; again, RVS.
RVS activity is keeping an eye on the game so you can say something about someone else to set the ball rolling.  Otherwise we'd just be throwing questions back and forth all game.  I mean... can't you see that everyone following "Question others, respond to questions" would never allow the game to go anywhere?  Especially if you don't vote anyone.

Vote power? No idea how many there are, not to mention I couldn't think of any cool ones immediately, there would seem to be sooo many cool roles that could exist. Though I'm sure webadict thought of some pretty cool ones.
This... seems like a contradiction?  Are you unable to provide a role you'd like because you can't think of any or because you're overwhelmed by the huge number you can think of?  Neither of these seem to make much sense considering that the old VMs have a bunch of votes, I mentioned a few roles earlier in the thread etc.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #78 on: March 11, 2012, 05:29:42 am »

Dariush, if you could grant a vote to a player, whom would you grant it to?
To whoever I'd think town at the time.
Dariush: Why don't you think specific roles will have a significant impact?
Because I'm pretty sure there won't be any 'cops' along the lines of 'You can only vote people of a certain aligment', the same going for the rest of power roles. Thus, every day people will have to scumhunt regardless of roles present.

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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #79 on: March 11, 2012, 07:24:29 am »

Urist McA:  Are you fullclaiming?  If so, what does the Hated aspect do?


Dariush:  We can find those who are lying about their vote, however.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #80 on: March 11, 2012, 07:38:50 am »

Dariush:  We can find those who are lying about their vote, however.
Uh. How?

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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #81 on: March 11, 2012, 07:47:30 am »

At least we can get suspects.
I mean, if there's an equal amount of people voting for "a" and "b" and a gets lynched, if we account for everything then we know someone's lying from a's voters.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #82 on: March 11, 2012, 09:43:31 am »

I mean, if there's an equal amount of people voting for "a" and "b" and a gets lynched, if we account for everything then we know someone's lying from a's voters.
Or from B's voters. Or either A or B about their abilities. Or someone else whatsoever who fucked with someone's abilities.

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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #83 on: March 11, 2012, 12:30:18 pm »

Jim:
Whether I would fakeclaim as scum would depend heavily on circumstances, what my actual role was, and whether I thought it would be a) necessary and b) possible to get away with.
Would your answer be different if there were no alignment restrictions for any roles?
Are there? I didn't see that in my read of VM7. But no, my answer of "it'd depend on circumstances" would hold. If there were alignment restrictions, and if I was aware of them, I'd take it into account as part of the "if I thought it possible to get away with" clause.


Penngo:
Since you did badly with that question, I'll ask you another: if you were scum, which vote power would you like to have & why? And who would you choose as target for a nightkill on N1?
Vote power? No idea how many there are, not to mention I couldn't think of any cool ones immediately, there would seem to be sooo many cool roles that could exist. Though I'm sure webadict thought of some pretty cool ones.
Again unhelpful and noncommittal. You failed to answer the question again: speculate, not give excuses for why you fail. And you completely ignored the second question. That's three failures in three questions.


Pranz: you failed to answer my question.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #84 on: March 11, 2012, 03:29:59 pm »

Urist McA:  Are you fullclaiming?  If so, what does the Hated aspect do?

Quite response while busy; yes, that's a full claim.  Hated means I start the day with one vote already on me; so I presume it takes one less vote to lynch me, and if I'm behind someone else by one vote (or even worse, behind a tied vote by one), I would be tied with them.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #85 on: March 11, 2012, 03:30:26 pm »

EBWODP: Quick, not quite response.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #86 on: March 11, 2012, 03:53:55 pm »

Penngo:
Since you did badly with that question, I'll ask you another: if you were scum, which vote power would you like to have & why? And who would you choose as target for a nightkill on N1?
Vote power? No idea how many there are, not to mention I couldn't think of any cool ones immediately, there would seem to be sooo many cool roles that could exist. Though I'm sure webadict thought of some pretty cool ones.
Again unhelpful and noncommittal. You failed to answer the question again: speculate, not give excuses for why you fail. And you completely ignored the second question. That's three failures in three questions.
I wouldn't know who I would want to nightkill until night actually came. I really thought that would be obvious.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2012, 06:20:45 pm »


Pranz: you failed to answer my question.

Something that strengthens relative to the votes on me. Like auto-selfvote, me being able to redirect their votes on my target.
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #88 on: March 12, 2012, 12:37:04 am »

Penngo: Why are you avoiding committing to anything? Is it really that hard for you to speculate?
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Re: Vote Mafia 8 (13/13) - Day 1: Start
« Reply #89 on: March 12, 2012, 03:30:33 am »

Dariush, if you could grant a vote to a player, whom would you grant it to?
To whoever I'd think town at the time.

That's such a copout answer.

Come on. Gimme the good stuff. A name.

Dariush:  We can find those who are lying about their vote, however.
Uh. How?

Vote counts at the end of the day have been 100% accurate in previous VMs. I.E., we can see how many votes each player has and who cast them.
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