Grah, thought I had posted about ~7 or so hours back before logging out.
...doesn't Native's behaviour fully fit the criteria for a low score, according to the bit we know about GlyphGryph's algorithm? Basically, what is your point?
Yes, Native's behavior certainly fits the criteria for a low score, but my point revolved around the fact of his playstyle. Firstly, after browsing through the recent Mafias that he was in, it was the
same thing every D1, mostly. Now, I was thinking that by logical and numerical analysis, based on the list, GlyphGryph was going to attack the one that had least participated in D1 - though, due to his meta. Then, GG throws in the lynch all lurkers at D1. I may be inexperienced (in D1 play), but that doesn't look like a great reason to go after him, maybe justified by said list.
Like I said, I could've asked him yesterday (Mafia term), but he made that post as I was logged off - sleeping. The confusion yesterday was mostly due to Dariush's wording, that which I didn't consider to be scummy at most.
Tiruin: What, exactly, was it about that list that made you so suspicious? As far as I see it, he made a list of people and assigned them values depending on how well, or at least actively, they played. And by "As far as I see it" I mean he outright stated it".
Who do you think is most likely scum at this point and why aren't you voting them?
Firstly, my thoughts were planned on Day 1, RVS and general searching and questioning. The activity, which is also based on playstyle or meta (like NF's hide in day 1 plan and observe) is liable to failure, but it also gives some evidence on who is active. (Pertaining to first question) It may be a Day 1 ploy to catch scum, or an original act to keep tabs on everyone, I couldn't ask him, nor did I see anyone else do such. Also, GlyphGryph, in reading other recent Mafias, is a predominantly powerful player when scum, another point for my action (the other being lack of leads). Hence:
But one thing hit me, why didn't anyone suspect, or state they suspected how GG rated them?
Who I think is scum, is either Shakerag or Urist I, which changed in the last 18 hours upon a good re-read. I did vote for one of them, in the post that should have been here as stated by the first sentence in this post, but due to technical error I am doing it now. See: Response to Shakerag.
Why can't you answer that question?
But one thing hit me, why didn't anyone suspect, or state they suspected how GG rated them?
Tiruin, I'm going to second Darvi's line of thinking here. Why go back to this point now? GG's dead and flipped town, so what good would it do us to suspect GG's list at this point?
I'm going back to that point, as that is the point in which my reasoning is based upon. See:Response to Darvi. Why aren't you and him not answering a simple question?
Shakerag. I know I am innocent, but lack any other way to prove it other than word. We have an inspect done on Urist I that states town, unsure if Paladin or not, but nobody even tries to question him as of this post. Also, you did state the fact that GG did not move to anyone - Paralysis.
Ok. I have been and am drinking, so I'll save analysis for the morning and just toss out the facts here. I used a Scroll of Scrying on GG last night. He didn't go anywhere, but Urist Imiknorris and Tiruin came knockin'. Unfortunately, I do not know what either of them did.
And it is stated in the description that specifies in the
players only. Why would you put in that last sentence? Like you did something else and try to hide it there.
(and, as a side bonus, see if he'd do anything to anyone else to try and confirm his alignment).
How can he do anything to 'try and confirm his alignment' when your Scrying can only tell who actioned him, and who he actioned?
tl;dr: This: "Shake killed him and uses a scumbuddy's inspect result to frame the other two."
but firstly:
Mod Toast: In the description of Enchant Armor was: 25% kill resistance, does this pertain to the scum NK, or to item usage that leads to death?
I haven't had a lot of time to get on, I probably should have mentioned that 2 days ago. Anyway:
After reading all the stuff I missed, voting Tiruin even though he's a nice guy. He's trying to get us to inspect a list that a dude guy came up with even though it is sensible and he seems to be trying to avoid questions.
Not trying to avoid questions, see the sentence at the top of this post. It had all the answers, which I will post again. See: Every other statement in this post.
Anyway, the list which I've stated was my reason
before GlyphGryph flipped town. Basically, other than most of the debate yesterday (Mafia terms), he was suspicious from the list, as Dariush was doing a grammatical error and my vote was stuck on Shakerag due to...other-Mafia knowledge error, if that's the term for his derp.
What makes you vote for me, exactly, when I'm stating what drove me to block GG? Also, what then do you think is a good lead, if that is what I can see you try to do there? Who are your top scumpicks?
Hmm. Taking into account the potential town result on Urist, I think I'm gonna unvote and go with my guy on Tiruin.
So you,
NativeForeigner, won't even try to get extra evidence from the one not under fire? And, go with who guy?
Also,
Well, if it's not one, it's the other. Urist.
What led you to the specific wording, before any of the persecuted could defend themselves?
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