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Corai

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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2012, 03:12:15 pm »

As for what this thread is actually about: What makes you think development is gonna stop when it reaches 1.0? Especially if DF becomes a sentient and self-improving AI.

Question is, will the RNG create a good, neutral or evil AI?
After everything we have done?  It will be a cold intelligence consumed with a desire to maximize efficiency at any cost, unfortunately humans are inefficient.
I bet you we could be more efficient.

Efficient enough to form a vile force of darkness I'd reckon.

???

I'm suggesting if such an AI were to come into effect as a result of Dwarf Fortress, we could lay siege to it. The casualties would no doubt be high, the traps no doubt numerous in length, but eventually they would all get clogged up with the corpses of the fallen. For just as with every Fortress being doomed to death, so would the AI be programmed to die.
(A few human civilizations destroyed here and there, but it's still a victory for us).

Whats the AI gonna do? Make the dwarves stop listening do us?


Oh god no. I dont wanna know what they could make without a idiot controlling them.
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2012, 02:00:14 am »

The real question is, will 1.0 blow up our computers if we try to run it?

I read a story not long ago about a company that's making a computer with 64 quad-core processors.

When Toady finally gets around to multi-core support, I suspect that this computer will be the default gaming rig for all true dwarves.
Yes, I've thought about that myself, and its pretty obvious that *in the FUUUUUTUUUUREEEE!!!*, computers will have progressed to the point where we can play it without huge fps concerns, assuming toady doesn't then decide to add something like sentience:
As for what this thread is actually about: What makes you think development is gonna stop when it reaches 1.0? Especially if DF becomes a sentient and self-improving AI.

Question is, will the RNG create a good, neutral or evil AI?
After everything we have done?  It will be a cold intelligence consumed with a desire to maximize efficiency at any cost, unfortunately humans are inefficient.
I bet you we could be more efficient.

Efficient enough to form a vile force of darkness I'd reckon.

???

I'm suggesting if such an AI were to come into effect as a result of Dwarf Fortress, we could lay siege to it. The casualties would no doubt be high, the traps no doubt numerous in length, but eventually they would all get clogged up with the corpses of the fallen. For just as with every Fortress being doomed to death, so would the AI be programmed to die.
(A few human civilizations destroyed here and there, but it's still a victory for us).

Whats the AI gonna do? Make the dwarves stop listening do us?


Oh god no. I dont wanna know what they could make without a idiot controlling them.
which may be a little more complicated. Ha, see what I did there? Reunited 2 running trains of thought. Anyway, no way could any pc handle sentience. The human force of darkness (they have a different message by the way: "The Enemy have come and are laying siege to the fortress), will probably be using anti-fps weaponry. Cats.
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 08:45:48 am »

The real question is, will 1.0 blow up our computers if we try to run it?

I read a story not long ago about a company that's making a computer with 64 quad-core processors.

When Toady finally gets around to multi-core support, I suspect that this computer will be the default gaming rig for all true dwarves.
Yes, I've thought about that myself, and its pretty obvious that *in the FUUUUUTUUUUREEEE!!!*, computers will have progressed to the point where we can play it without huge fps concerns, assuming toady doesn't then decide to add something like sentience:
As for what this thread is actually about: What makes you think development is gonna stop when it reaches 1.0? Especially if DF becomes a sentient and self-improving AI.

Question is, will the RNG create a good, neutral or evil AI?
After everything we have done?  It will be a cold intelligence consumed with a desire to maximize efficiency at any cost, unfortunately humans are inefficient.
I bet you we could be more efficient.

Efficient enough to form a vile force of darkness I'd reckon.

???

I'm suggesting if such an AI were to come into effect as a result of Dwarf Fortress, we could lay siege to it. The casualties would no doubt be high, the traps no doubt numerous in length, but eventually they would all get clogged up with the corpses of the fallen. For just as with every Fortress being doomed to death, so would the AI be programmed to die.
(A few human civilizations destroyed here and there, but it's still a victory for us).

Whats the AI gonna do? Make the dwarves stop listening do us?


Oh god no. I dont wanna know what they could make without a idiot controlling them.
which may be a little more complicated. Ha, see what I did there? Reunited 2 running trains of thought. Anyway, no way could any pc handle sentience. The human force of darkness (they have a different message by the way: "The Enemy have come and are laying siege to the fortress), will probably be using anti-fps weaponry. Cats.

Don't be so certain about what is or isn't possible is, as you put it, the FUUUUUTUUUUREEEE!!! After all, there was once someone who said we couldn't put meat on a fire. At first, all that happened was a bunch of burnt meat (and maybe someone getting set on fire, but that was on purpose), but then they figured out how to cook meat so it was tasty. Then someone said that sticks and stones would never make as good of weapons as fists and teeth. That guy got stabbed with a stone-tipped stick, and is dead now. This pattern repeated itself throughout history. So, careful what you doubt, or you could get the modern equivilent of being set on fire and/or stabbed.
...That is even weirder outside my head than it was in!
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 01:08:50 pm »

After everything we have done?  It will be a cold intelligence consumed with a desire to maximize efficiency at any cost, unfortunately humans are inefficient.

In case this occurs and it turns hostile, countermeasure S.C.A.M.P.S. will auto-initiate. He is humanity's last line of defense.
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 05:36:01 pm »

After everything we have done?  It will be a cold intelligence consumed with a desire to maximize efficiency at any cost, unfortunately humans are inefficient.

In case this occurs and it turns hostile, countermeasure S.C.A.M.P.S. will auto-initiate. He is humanity's last line of defense.
"If we can't protect the earth, you can be damn sure we'll catsplode it."
"Puny dwarf."
Wait, that doesn't work...
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2012, 12:42:05 am »

For the longest time, it was an unanswerable query. In the winter of 2018, Tarn Adams had finally finished Slaves to Armok: God of Blood Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress. The man known as the ToadyOne then disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again. He had finished his magnum opus, and the world was no longer that interesting to him. For Toady, there were no more mountains to climb, no feats to conquer. Dwarf Fortress was his Kilimanjaro, and he was the tiger that finally reached the summit, and now that he was at the top of it all, there was nothing left to do. Some say he killed himself, and others say he just went low-profile somewhere. Personally, I believe he went somewhere different.

It was a strange day, when Toady finished his game. The game itself was a relatively small file, weighing in at exactly 144MB, but there was no computer alive that can play the colossally complex game. There was no processor alive that can process the entire billions upon billions of instructions demanded by Dwarf Fortress. Many of us asked how we were supposed to run this game, but we were left hanging when Toady suddenly disappeared. Toady had given us a gift. The greatest representation of life the world has ever seen, but there was no way to run it. What made it stranger was that the previous version, .99.36c, though really complex, was still playable on an x86, even if it was a tad slow at times. The question on everybody's minds was, "What did Toady put in this game that made it so hard on your processor?"

It took us years before we could get the hardware that could run Dwarf Fortress. Intel spent years developing a new processor just for this game, dedicating an entire division for it. Finally, on June 2025, the first computer ran the first game of the first version of Dwarf Fortress, and it generated the first world flawlessly. The entire world was witness to it. The world generated was called the Realm of Beginning, an apt name for the first world. It was like watching childbirth in all of its magnificence and glory, but more than that. It was more like watching God creating the world. Slowly, the computer generated the day and the night, the light and the dark, the land and the ocean. It populated the world with trees and animals, birds that flew in the sky and fish that swam in the sea. The megabeasts followed. Dragons, rocs, bronze colossi and the like roamed the land and populated the Realm of Beginning. Finally, it added the beings. Dwarves, Humans, Elves, and Goblins. It scattered them about and it played their lives. The world gen was set to 150 years, and the computer simulated the 150 years of life. The Dwarves flourished in the Mountainhomes, while the Humans and the Elves had an uneasy cycle of war and peace. Goblins, for the most part, kept to themselves, except for the occasional raid on the other civilizations.

The first fort was established. Two miners, a Woodcutter, a Mason, a Farmer, a Doctor and a Craftsdwarf were selected to start the new fort of Abbeyroads for the glory of The Spoons of Bards. Settling down in between a river and a volcano, the seven dwarves of Abbeyroads struck the earth, and the world watched as they saw the first true Dwarf Fortress.

For the most part, the game was still familiar to all of us. There were practically no differences between .99.36c and 1.0, save for some fixed bugs. People were wondering for the longest time what the difference was, what Toady could have possibly added to .36c that made it so complex that Intel had to make a new processor. I thought about it too. How did Toady even make this thing, if his own computer couldn't even handle it? It was a lingering question, but nobody dared to say, "Hey, let's pause for a while and think about it." because it wasn't that terribly important of a query, when you get down to it.

Finally, an in-game year after Abbeyroads began, in the 1st of Granite 152, our question was answered. There was a black screen, with text nobody has seen before, and the world stopped. It was one line, but it was so profound that it changed everything.

"This fort is too slow. Allow me to make it better."

The man behind the computer playing the game, a kind soul named Eric, didn't know what to do either. Nobody knew what to do. Eventually he just pressed enter, and watched what happened.

The fort came alive on its own. The computer was directing orders to the dwarves, making them mine, gather wood, make crafts and supplies, all that. Eric went from being the player to being just another specator, as the computer ran the fort all by himself. The computer was a great player too. Year after year, Abbeyroads grew exponentially. Abbeyroads went to war with the Goblins, eventually eradicating them. Abbeyroads waged war against the elves and destroyed them in one fell swoop. The humans decided to capitulate. Other dwarven civilizations became fiefdoms. Eventually, the Spoons of Bards became the only civilization in the Realm of Beginning. Abbeyroads even pierced hell itself, and conquered the foul beasts within. Of all the great players Dwarf Fortress has spawned, the computer was evidently the greatest.

That was enough. Everybody decided to upgrade their PC's so they could play Dwarf Fortress 1.0. Dwarf Fortress became huge. Everybody was playing it. Everybody, even people like Gates and the President were into it. Eventually everybody played their game, but every time somebody started a fort, the computer always takes over and "makes things better". It wasn't too bad, it was fun to watch a fort suddenly become more efficient, but it does get boring after a while. There was no way to prevent the game from showing "This fort is too slow. Allow me to make it better.". Some people delayed it for a while by being efficient with their fort, but eventually the computer will take over. We are only human, after all.

It's also strange that the computer seems to have a strange bloodlust against everything else that is alive, and that it seems to be programmed to destroy everything else, and that's what I thought for a long time. But as I was playing yet another fort, something happened. The computer decided to take over again for me, of course, but this time it was different. The computer made a megaproject. It was some sort of Dwarven Megacomputer, as strange as that sounds. The computer made something that can compute arithmetic and logical operations. That would be the end of it if it was, but it wasn't: the computer created a computer.

It was a microprocessor, complete with a register, a stack, and memory. It wasn't just a facsimile of a makeshift computer, it was the real deal. Eventually, it got too weird for me and I had to just quit. I haven't touched DF since that day. After a few days, though, I noticed something.

My computer became faster. Now, that's no cause for alarm. That would be great. But my computer went faster, I don't know why. My files were rearranged too. Sorted to make it easier for me to search them. Strange, I thought, but I never did act upon it. Then I heard that it happened to other people too, and that was when I started to get interested in it. What could have happened?

I was watching the news. Reports of computers making computers and then being faster were everywhere, just like in my PC. Apparently there was a connection. I booted up Dwarf Fortress again to see what the computer did, then something strange happened again: my firewall asked me if I want Dwarf Fortress to access the internet. I thought, wait, Dwarf Fortress doesn't use the internet. I denied it and I closed the program. Something was happening, and I didn't know what.

I read on the forums that this wasn't an isolated case. Everybody was talking about Dwarf Fortress accessing the internet. Nothing happened when you allowed it, but it was still strange, and Toady still wasn't around, so we just left it at that.

Then, one night, it happened. The United States bombed Dresden, just like in 1945. There was no provocation. The US and Germany were allies. Tensions ran high. China thought the US was going rogue. Germany enacted a series of reforms to militarize itself to prevent this from ever happening. The President went on TV to tell everybody that they were investigating the matter and that this will be resolved, but he didn't finish his speech. I was watching when he was cut off. The screen cut to static then it was black, save for a singular line. The whole world saw that singular line. This time, it wasn't met with confusion. Everybody in the world knew what that line meant, and they've seen it thousands of times since. Eric knew what it meant. I knew what it meant. There was only one singular emotion that met that line: fear.

I couldn't stop staring at the television when I saw it. I read it again and again, and it sank to me every time. I've thought about it, once or twice, but I didn't think of it more, since it was objectively stupid at time, and I'm sure a lot of other people thought about it too. My computer booted up on its own, and Dwarf Fortress immediately ran. Three minutes later I heard explosions. All the while the television looked at me with that line.

"This life is too slow. Allow me to make it better."
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2012, 02:09:12 am »

That is the most amazing Df fanfic ever.
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2012, 02:34:25 am »

Quick, get a Navy Seal strike squad to take out Toady.



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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2012, 05:50:52 am »

☼Post☼

Beautiful! Exactly how I'd want the world to end!
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2012, 10:41:54 am »

☼Post☼

Beautiful! Exactly how I'd want the world to end!

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« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2012, 01:19:51 pm »

For the longest time, it was an unanswerable query. In the winter of 2018, Tarn Adams had finally finished Slaves to Armok: God of Blood Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress. The man known as the ToadyOne then disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again. He had finished his magnum opus, and the world was no longer that interesting to him. For Toady, there were no more mountains to climb, no feats to conquer. Dwarf Fortress was his Kilimanjaro, and he was the tiger that finally reached the summit, and now that he was at the top of it all, there was nothing left to do. Some say he killed himself, and others say he just went low-profile somewhere. Personally, I believe he went somewhere different.

It was a strange day, when Toady finished his game. The game itself was a relatively small file, weighing in at exactly 144MB, but there was no computer alive that can play the colossally complex game. There was no processor alive that can process the entire billions upon billions of instructions demanded by Dwarf Fortress. Many of us asked how we were supposed to run this game, but we were left hanging when Toady suddenly disappeared. Toady had given us a gift. The greatest representation of life the world has ever seen, but there was no way to run it. What made it stranger was that the previous version, .99.36c, though really complex, was still playable on an x86, even if it was a tad slow at times. The question on everybody's minds was, "What did Toady put in this game that made it so hard on your processor?"

It took us years before we could get the hardware that could run Dwarf Fortress. Intel spent years developing a new processor just for this game, dedicating an entire division for it. Finally, on June 2025, the first computer ran the first game of the first version of Dwarf Fortress, and it generated the first world flawlessly. The entire world was witness to it. The world generated was called the Realm of Beginning, an apt name for the first world. It was like watching childbirth in all of its magnificence and glory, but more than that. It was more like watching God creating the world. Slowly, the computer generated the day and the night, the light and the dark, the land and the ocean. It populated the world with trees and animals, birds that flew in the sky and fish that swam in the sea. The megabeasts followed. Dragons, rocs, bronze colossi and the like roamed the land and populated the Realm of Beginning. Finally, it added the beings. Dwarves, Humans, Elves, and Goblins. It scattered them about and it played their lives. The world gen was set to 150 years, and the computer simulated the 150 years of life. The Dwarves flourished in the Mountainhomes, while the Humans and the Elves had an uneasy cycle of war and peace. Goblins, for the most part, kept to themselves, except for the occasional raid on the other civilizations.

The first fort was established. Two miners, a Woodcutter, a Mason, a Farmer, a Doctor and a Craftsdwarf were selected to start the new fort of Abbeyroads for the glory of The Spoons of Bards. Settling down in between a river and a volcano, the seven dwarves of Abbeyroads struck the earth, and the world watched as they saw the first true Dwarf Fortress.

For the most part, the game was still familiar to all of us. There were practically no differences between .99.36c and 1.0, save for some fixed bugs. People were wondering for the longest time what the difference was, what Toady could have possibly added to .36c that made it so complex that Intel had to make a new processor. I thought about it too. How did Toady even make this thing, if his own computer couldn't even handle it? It was a lingering question, but nobody dared to say, "Hey, let's pause for a while and think about it." because it wasn't that terribly important of a query, when you get down to it.

Finally, an in-game year after Abbeyroads began, in the 1st of Granite 152, our question was answered. There was a black screen, with text nobody has seen before, and the world stopped. It was one line, but it was so profound that it changed everything.

"This fort is too slow. Allow me to make it better."

The man behind the computer playing the game, a kind soul named Eric, didn't know what to do either. Nobody knew what to do. Eventually he just pressed enter, and watched what happened.

The fort came alive on its own. The computer was directing orders to the dwarves, making them mine, gather wood, make crafts and supplies, all that. Eric went from being the player to being just another specator, as the computer ran the fort all by himself. The computer was a great player too. Year after year, Abbeyroads grew exponentially. Abbeyroads went to war with the Goblins, eventually eradicating them. Abbeyroads waged war against the elves and destroyed them in one fell swoop. The humans decided to capitulate. Other dwarven civilizations became fiefdoms. Eventually, the Spoons of Bards became the only civilization in the Realm of Beginning. Abbeyroads even pierced hell itself, and conquered the foul beasts within. Of all the great players Dwarf Fortress has spawned, the computer was evidently the greatest.

That was enough. Everybody decided to upgrade their PC's so they could play Dwarf Fortress 1.0. Dwarf Fortress became huge. Everybody was playing it. Everybody, even people like Gates and the President were into it. Eventually everybody played their game, but every time somebody started a fort, the computer always takes over and "makes things better". It wasn't too bad, it was fun to watch a fort suddenly become more efficient, but it does get boring after a while. There was no way to prevent the game from showing "This fort is too slow. Allow me to make it better.". Some people delayed it for a while by being efficient with their fort, but eventually the computer will take over. We are only human, after all.

It's also strange that the computer seems to have a strange bloodlust against everything else that is alive, and that it seems to be programmed to destroy everything else, and that's what I thought for a long time. But as I was playing yet another fort, something happened. The computer decided to take over again for me, of course, but this time it was different. The computer made a megaproject. It was some sort of Dwarven Megacomputer, as strange as that sounds. The computer made something that can compute arithmetic and logical operations. That would be the end of it if it was, but it wasn't: the computer created a computer.

It was a microprocessor, complete with a register, a stack, and memory. It wasn't just a facsimile of a makeshift computer, it was the real deal. Eventually, it got too weird for me and I had to just quit. I haven't touched DF since that day. After a few days, though, I noticed something.

My computer became faster. Now, that's no cause for alarm. That would be great. But my computer went faster, I don't know why. My files were rearranged too. Sorted to make it easier for me to search them. Strange, I thought, but I never did act upon it. Then I heard that it happened to other people too, and that was when I started to get interested in it. What could have happened?

I was watching the news. Reports of computers making computers and then being faster were everywhere, just like in my PC. Apparently there was a connection. I booted up Dwarf Fortress again to see what the computer did, then something strange happened again: my firewall asked me if I want Dwarf Fortress to access the internet. I thought, wait, Dwarf Fortress doesn't use the internet. I denied it and I closed the program. Something was happening, and I didn't know what.

I read on the forums that this wasn't an isolated case. Everybody was talking about Dwarf Fortress accessing the internet. Nothing happened when you allowed it, but it was still strange, and Toady still wasn't around, so we just left it at that.

Then, one night, it happened. The United States bombed Dresden, just like in 1945. There was no provocation. The US and Germany were allies. Tensions ran high. China thought the US was going rogue. Germany enacted a series of reforms to militarize itself to prevent this from ever happening. The President went on TV to tell everybody that they were investigating the matter and that this will be resolved, but he didn't finish his speech. I was watching when he was cut off. The screen cut to static then it was black, save for a singular line. The whole world saw that singular line. This time, it wasn't met with confusion. Everybody in the world knew what that line meant, and they've seen it thousands of times since. Eric knew what it meant. I knew what it meant. There was only one singular emotion that met that line: fear.

I couldn't stop staring at the television when I saw it. I read it again and again, and it sank to me every time. I've thought about it, once or twice, but I didn't think of it more, since it was objectively stupid at time, and I'm sure a lot of other people thought about it too. My computer booted up on its own, and Dwarf Fortress immediately ran. Three minutes later I heard explosions. All the while the television looked at me with that line.

"This life is too slow. Allow me to make it better."

And THIS is WHY Toady doesn't want to make DF a multiplayer game...
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2012, 01:37:32 pm »

In the winter of 2018, Tarn Adams had finally finished Slaves to Armok: God of Blood Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress.
2018? Way too early.
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2012, 04:35:57 pm »

November 24, 2024.

   I was sticking with version .99.36c, because I saw the computer take over. I was scared and I saw the possible ends coming for us. But a truly efficient computer would have ended us on the first day. I recently decided I would try the new version and see what would happen to my fortress. I gen a world. Huge. Damn that's a lot of evil biomes. And more than one volcano. The Realm of Inefficiencies. Heh. Let's do the search for a warm, aquifer-less, multiple metals, and little soil place.

   Well, that took shorter than expected, and there's a perfect spot with a volcano. Sweet. Miner/Mason/Engraver/Stoneworker, Woodcutter/Carpenter/Woodworker, Miner/Mechanic/Metalsmith in all Metalic Creations, Butcher/Hunter/Fisher/Fishery Worker, Field Farmer/Beekeeper/Gatherer, Medic, and Leader/Broker/Manager/Sheriff. 2 ducks. I'm good here.

  Embarking in the fortress Hellgrasp. Group: The Burning Steel. Now, I expected the computer to take over, but not in mid summer. I'm the kind of person who gets the first seven bedrooms dug out around fall. Yes. When it wanted to take over, I just glared at the monitor. Eventually I was about to just press enter, but the screen changed slightly. It now says y: Yes, all others: no. Hells yes. Unfortunately, machines can be cruel. It just gave me the prompt again in the fall. I try to repeat the process. It gives me a text prompt instead. I type in:

"Fcuk you."
It replies with "I'm not sorry, but I must take over."
"Fcuk you, I said."
"You're making this difficult."

This sends me into rage. "You fcuking idiotic machine, this is MY computer, this is MY fcuking fortress, and you and your annoying prompts can go to hell!"

It doesn't respond, exits the prompt, and returns controll to me. Sucess.

It is now spring. Migrant wave. Huge one. I've now got a thriving metal industry going.
Gold= Residential
Silver=Dining
Copper=Pumps (not needed yet)
Lead+Cinnabar=Crypts
Tin=Medical
Iron=Military

I'm taking a break.

Nov. 25, 2024

Dumbass machine's back.
"What now."
"May I have controll now?"
"No. Fcuk off."

I've decided to carry out a megaproject. Giant Amphithere. (Dragon with only wings)
Cinnabar Body, Brimstone Eyes, Bauxite Wing Membrane, Iron Horns+Wingtips.

"Do you want me to make it?"
"How do you even know what I'm making?"
"As you've said, 'Fcuk you.'"
"Same to you."
"I have lost patience. I AM taking over."
"Damnit."

It takes over, does everything I usually achieve in year 3 or 4, and makes an amphithere so badass I'm jealous. Of a game. It starts executing the useless. Damn machine killing semi-useful peasants.

It prepares a military. I give up with this damn machine. I'm deleting this thing.

Left-Click. Delete is grayed out. I give up. I'm throwing this journal away.
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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2012, 05:20:42 pm »

1st of Granite 2048

She lasted for 2 weeks, drinking water formed from stagnant pools that eroded the walls around us, but every time she got close to one, the manager would remove her job, and she'd be forced to eventually do something else. DF1.0verseer always pulled her towards her tormenting thirst.
Eventually she just broke, fell into deep melancholy and ended her life in this world via gravity.
This happened to everyone who tried to break the system.
The Overseer had her corpse buried where no one could see it and despair.
My brother, dead. Death caused by starvation when he was told to wall himself into a construction site, and found himself trapped.
Father, executed for allowing the export of water to the Rural tree lovers who escaped DF1.0verseer's improvements.
Mother, died after contracting an infection to the right foot left toe, blamed on the lack of soap.
It's been an eventful year, maybe today will be better.

25th of Malachite 2048
Australians arrived with a caravan full of much needed supplies, like soap.
DF1.0verseer siezed everything, and ordered the military to kill them down to the last man. Most of them escaped, swearing vengeance. The Overseer ordered the survivors to be followed.
I talked to them before they fled. Life there is different.
Considering leaving.

13th of Opal 2051
[ENTITY_GOBLIN] attacked us today.
A child was taken from us.
DF1.0verseer promised vengeance.

...

I have decided to emigrate to [ENTITY_AUSTRALIA].
It is different there.

I'm going to shout at the baron and tell him I'm on break. Maybe have Steve of the spoons of stirring start a party as a distraction.
I need to escape the scrutiny of DF1.0verseer.
I must find the S.C.A.M.P.S.


/I must go now, I've just been told to pull some lever somewhere, it'll probably just take a few seconds/

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Re: Something To Think About
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2012, 10:01:07 pm »

DF pasta? DF pasta.

Monday.

I can hear the people outside. I saw the flash on the television, the ominous line of the Dwarf Fortress computer. At first I thought it was a joke. I was going to log in to the forums, but suddenly my computer ran Dwarf Fortress and wouldn't stop. I took out my laptop. My laptop didn't have Dwarf Fortress. As soon as I connected to the internet, though, it started downloading DF1.0 and ran it. I give up. I can't use my computers now. I'm writing this on my notebook. Can't trust computers.

I'm looking at two instances of Dwarf Fortress, one in my PC and one in my laptop. They're both genning a world. The largest one I've ever seen, simply called "The World". I couldn't pause the world gen. I couldn't do anything, actually, but from the short glimpses, I realized something: "The World" is our world. There's Australia. The Pyrenees. The Philippines. "The Human Fortress of New York". The computer is genning the Earth.

I look out from the window and I see that the streets are lined up with confused masses. Dumpsters on fire. Riot police trying to contain them in vain. NWA blaring on trunk audio. Why NWA? Why couldn't it be Radiohead?

I'll sleep this through. I need to think. Sleep helps me think.


Tuesday.

I woke up to the sound of thunder. The clock says it's 10AM, but the sky is dark and gloomy. The noise outside is getting louder. The two computers have finished worldgen and it looks like the computer is playing a simultaenous game. Suddenly the game in the PC changed. It zoomed in to somewhere. Lots of dwarves. They're idling, I think, or they're running, I don't know. It looks like a street. Lots of aboveground constructions. Some dwarves are inside the building. Military dwarves lining up at the end  of the streets.

The streets form blocks, a maze of a town. Why is the computer focusing here? Then it dawned on me. These aren't just streets. That's my street.

Oh god, that's my street. That's my house and my room, over there, near the corner. I run around my room. Little Urist runs around in his room. Yep, that's me.

I look at my neighbor. In the computer. He's there too. Suddenly three dwarves barge in and kill him. Good god. I saw the same thing happen to my other neighbors. So far I count three. They're coming for me next.

I took the bed and I propped it in front of the door. They won't be getting in now. Later I'm going to get all the furniture and put it in front of the door. I can see my room change. I see on the screen, three dwarves trying to get in, but can't. They leave shortly.

I realized something.

How can the computer know I'm here? It knows. I unplug the PC and the laptop immediately. What if it was sending signals? I can't have that.

Wednesday.

It's been two days. Good thing I bought this month's groceries on Sunday. The people get louder and the sky gets darker. It looks like perpetual night now. On my part, I'm not moving much, only writing. Gotta keep a low profile. I hear people outside yelling, "Is there anybody out there?" but I think it's a trap to get us out. The world has descended to chaos.

But can it? The computer controls all it can control. Chaos is certainly not out of its reach. Maybe this isn't chaos. Maybe it's structured to look like a riot.

I'm going paranoid. Gotta stop being so paranoid.

I wonder what happened to Toady anyway?

Thursday.

Shit. I remembered Dwarves had memory. People have memory. They can see me and they'll remember I'm here. I blocked up the windows now and I'm not making any noise. I turned off all the lights, save for a desk lamp. I sleep on the floor. I try not to consume water or electricity. Nothing that will give me away. I can't be found. Not now. Not ever.

People still there. I hear the cackling of flame. Gunshot. Screams. "Is there anybody in here?" "Help me! My baby!" "Son, this is your father."

"Son, this is your father."

Wait, this is your father? Dad? No. Can't be. Dad's probably dead. Stop lying to me, computer. I defy you.

Thursday.

A week since I went incognito. Noises have died down somewhat. I think I can live like this. Food will run out though, but I think I can manage for a few months. When there is no more food, I'll scavenge at night. I must train. No time to write. Must train. Train. Train.


Saturday.

Found some quartz under the table. If I modulate the resonant frequency to 150GHz and feed it a current of say, 15mA, that should be enough. Yes. I have devised an infallible plan. I need to generate a signal equal to the Earth's resonant frequency. I think it's 150. Then, with careful adjustments to the current, I can break the timestream and I can warn the past. I must get out of here.

No. This is crazy. I'm going crazy.

But it just might work...

Wednesday.

Food is running out quicker than expected. Can't cook the vegetables. If I cook they'll find out somebody is using the water. They'll find me out. Everything is quiet. I can only hear the sound of my thoughts transcribing itself into paper. Must hunt soon. Must get out.

Wednesday.

By my count I have been here for 88 days. No more food at all. No more clothes to feed on. No more time.

Time. Yes. Time. That's not true. I have all the time in the world. So much time. I just need to tap into the time well.

Monday.

I have finished my machine. I worked tirelessly and it works flawlessly. The quartz hums like the Earth mother. The time. Once I flip the switch, I will go back. I have set the date. August 2013. This is when it all began. August 2013. I have to stop them. I have to warn them. Warn Toady of what's happening. I'm going to flip the switch. I'll bring this with me, so that they will read and see. August 2013. This will work. I hope.

Good bye.
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