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[makeinu]

NOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBB!
Alright, done.

Mess up all you want. That's why I'm here. So I can feel superior So I can help new people. Same with Makeinu, Persus, and Nerjin. Anyone who's played before will try to help you.

Exactly. As strange as my behaviour has been this game, it's all been about teaching. Believe it or not.

[Tiruin]

"Sometimes, we are afraid to act; we fear that by our actions, we cause harm on vague reason, yet by not acting, we also go down another path: the neutral path. The idle journey."

A cold wind catches up and breezes through the city. The young girl gripped her coat tighter as she looked down upon the stage.

"Da, what's happening? The music is changing again."
"We're moving into general history now my child. Sooner or later, what we'll be seeing is what once was, instead of speculation."
"So no more colors and flashy lights? I liked that part."
"You'll be seeing those. Just not what we saw before."

• Superblackcat -
• mastahcheese -
• Sinlessmoon - Nerjin
• Jembot -
• Persus13 -
• Pufferfish -
• MyOwnWorstEnemy -
• Nerjin -
• makeinu - Superblackcat, mastahcheese, Persus13, MyOwnWorstEnemy
• Not Voting: Jembot, makeinu, Sinlessmoon, Pufferfish

Day 1 has begun and will end at January 8, 2013 [Wednesday]  9:00 pm [GMT//UTC +8]

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I'll be locking the thread when day ends and will resume the day on Friday; 9am, due to me predicting a lapse in time from day end, and when it'll be written due to RL stuff.

[makeinu]

Ah well, brought this on myself.

Longer explanation (as IC-in-training) later, if Tiruin will let me

[Tiruin]

"Love and loss. While we wish for utopia, it is by standing upon our shortcomings and looking back to our climb to where we are today that we can truly appreciate who we are, as people."

The family looks down at the stage, and as if in acknowledgement of the eyes of the masses--of their anticipation--the web turns into a diaphanous white, shimmering against the many lights in the audience. It continues like so, before fading into the planet.

A few cries are heard--cries of surprise and amazement--as a shroud is broken and the planet is viewed anew. Remains, ruins and relics of the Mythical Era appear, and with their place coexisted the civilizations, both old and new. The arid wasteland that once was, was only an illusion crafted from the lore of ancient past, and many were fooled henceforth.

Before their very eyes, the civilizations grew and spread throughout the land. The land, itself, broke into parts, spreading under shifting banners and the tides grew noisy, a raucous voice speaking against those who once lived in mutuality now going their own separate ways. Visions of war: of weapons brandished in arms, of soldiers marching in formation and of conquest of lands and liberty are seen.

Above the planet appears the faint visage of a masked man, dressed as dark as night, and as black as any shadow against the light. And he spake onto the people, saying, Sentience was our gift that separated us from our others. Governance was our duty. To make use of what was around us. We invented ships to cross the earth, unhindered by the tides or the seas. We invented buildings to rise to the heavens, and cross the skies with our wings. We invented light to see in the darkest of depths.

Yet all we made, was a reaction to what was present, and we wanted. With every benefit, there soon came a problem, and we overlooked. We invented ways to solve problems, yet we did not understand what those problems were. We saw obstacles, hindrances and troubles. Dangers and monsters were what came to exist.

We created our own problems, by not looking towards our solutions. This is the Age of Storms, where discovery was at its peak. Where the storms grew, and where tensions were strained.

==+=++=+==

With that, the man vanished and the civilizations turned against each other. This is the third act. The prelude to the third age.

• Superblackcat -
• mastahcheese -
• Sinlessmoon - Nerjin
• Jembot -
• Persus13 -
• Pufferfish -
• MyOwnWorstEnemy -
• Nerjin -
• makeinu - Superblackcat, mastahcheese, Persus13, MyOwnWorstEnemy
• Not Voting: Jembot, makeinu, Sinlessmoon, Pufferfish

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makeinu has been lynched! He was a Vanilla Mafioso!

makeinu
The Court has set the stage, and you play the role of the Shade. Taking the role of a being of shadow, you resemble the aspect of knowledge, information and intellect deep within the weave of society. The role of the simple Shade is always under that of another color, giving variety to the different aspects of the visible spectrum, and a direct relative to the caste of Light, though always on a darker level than your origin.

You are of the Mafia Faction! You have access to the shared Nightkill of your faction. You may scheme and discuss privately with your allies here

Wincondition: You win when the TOWN faction has equal or less players than your faction!

The game has entered the night phase. No person may post during the night phase and the thread will be locked to ensure such.

Please submit your actions via PM, if any. The Night will end at the time stated or until all probable actions are sent in.

~If any personal modifications to the planet at this certain era is wanted--please do send in that request. Flavoring hasn't been this fun!~

Ah well, brought this on myself.

Longer explanation (as IC-in-training) later, if Tiruin will let me

After game, ya silly cat! :3
Rest now, sleep well, and talk with your civilian tone, for your time is up. The play will resume.

Yes, night lasts ~1+ days despite what the OP says. For everyone's rest and leisure.

[Tiruin]

[Flavor placed here]

• Superblackcat -
• mastahcheese -
• Sinlessmoon -
• Jembot -
• Persus13 -
• Pufferfish -
• MyOwnWorstEnemy -
• Nerjin -
• Not Voting: Y'all.

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Guess I'm too busy to flavor it up now.

[makeinu]

Buh...

I regret nothing!

[Superblackcat]

Praise be: for the JKer!

[mastahcheese]

Praise be: for the JKer!

Yeah, I actually had to reread that twice, because I was like "wait, who died? I think we're all here..." before realizing that we must have had an excellent doctor.
Impeccable work, good sir or madam! We're off to an excellent start.

Ok, new reads for the new day!

•Superblackcat - You've been doing a great job of being active, and have pressed issues well, as well as demanding clarity from your target. I say you're a high probability of being town.
•Sinlessmoon - You're doing better about being active, hopefully the new day will inspire you to draw conclusions and ask questions. Can't get a good read yet. Kinda feeling a town vibe, though.
•Jembot - You're still doing a pretty terrible job of being active. I'm reluctant to say scum, but you're lurking.
•Persus13 - I feel like you've been a little more... reactive at times, but you've jumped on opportunities well, so I can tell you're definitely paying attention for logic lapses. I'm reading you as town, for now.
•Pufferfish - Dang it, where are you? I've forgotten you're even in this multiple times now. Post, dang it, you lurker!
•MyOwnWorstEnemy - You're doing better at being active, at least. Stop feeling nervous and afraid, and get out here! So far I think you're reluctant town.
•Nerjin - Our surviving IC has been rather absent as of late, but at least he's been excusing himself for it on the times he's been able to show, and trying to participate when he can. I'm reading a busy signal.

[Superblackcat]

Alright, I was waiting for him to flip town... My heart was about to blow.

[mastahcheese]

Alright, I was waiting for him to flip town... My heart was about to blow.

You weren't the only one. I was also flipping out over who was going to get killed in the night.

Now to find the other one... and with not much in the way of evidence, either.

[Superblackcat]

Well... The JK had a 50/50 chance. He might have blocked mafia, or protected mafia kill.

That being said. DO NOT OUT YET. Wait for the day to be more on its way. Even then, use your own judgement.

[mastahcheese]

Well... The JK had a 50/50 chance. He might have blocked mafia, or protected mafia kill.

That being said. DO NOT OUT YET. Wait for the day to be more on its way. Even then, use your own judgement.

Oh, I thought we were using a doctor, I forgot we were using jailkeeper. Hmm.
And yes, DON'T OUT. That would be a very bad idea right now.

[Persus13]

D2 is here! Either scum went with a NL (which I doubt) or our JKer picked the right person to roleblock/protect.

•Persus13 - I feel like you've been a little more... reactive at times, but you've jumped on opportunities well, so I can tell you're definitely paying attention for logic lapses. I'm reading you as town, for now.

I tend to be pretty reactive, yeah. It's partly because I hate RVS.

Well... The JK had a 50/50 chance. He might have blocked mafia, or protected mafia kill.

That being said. DO NOT OUT YET. Wait for the day to be more on its way. Even then, use your own judgement.

Oh, I thought we were using a doctor, I forgot we were using jailkeeper. Hmm.
And yes, DON'T OUT. That would be a very bad idea right now.

I agree with this.

Anyway, so today I recommend rereading the thread, and looking at interactions with Makeinu.

MOWE, why did you vote Makeinu yesterday?

Jembot: I'd love to hear some activity from you.

Nerjin: Activity from you would also be cool.

[Silthuri]

Persus:

MOWE, why did you vote Makeinu yesterday?

I voted makeinu because he was the scummiest person in my opinion. If you recall, I had suspicions that he was scum long before I voted him. I said that something seemed off about him. After his comment on "town hunting" I decided he was the most scummy. I offered him the chance to clarify what he said. He didn't take it so the vote stayed.

[Nerjin]

Alrighty, another huge read then. Keep in mind, please, that though I might not post often I try to make posts I do make count. I’ll try to address that better further on in my “Read-a-palooza” Pt. 3

Addendum: Since it is now Day 2 it might be a good idea to go back and see who voted whom and why. I would also recommend at least skimming the entirety of day 1 again to see if something sticks out.

Furthermore do not forget that Makeinu can still post because he is a dead IC. He can’t directly comment on the game but he can go over theories and such. The same goes for me when and if my time comes. However, You guys cannot when you die.

Spoiler: Jembot (click to show/hide)

I stated, last time, that Jem has been VERY passive. So much so that he’s not even asked any questions although he has asked all of the ones that have been thrown towards him. At least that I’ve noticed. The “2 posts” in the lurker-tracker since last time don’t fill me with confidence that he’s picked it up but let’s find out.

Nerjin- As an IC, what would you say is the number one mistake made by new players, either scum or town?

Right now? I'm thinking it would be "Not post". Not posting = Not Trying. Not Trying = Not Getting better. Yes it's a scary time in your first game. You don't REALLY know what you're doing. Even the best of you are just following what you've been told works. You haven't found your own groove just yet. BUT sometimes the fear of messing up petrifies the players. Remember children: Even if you fuck up you're learning something. Just keep trying. Find your own way to play that works FOR YOU. But most importantly: Play the game!

That being said, Jemboy, where are you right now? You’ve been sort’ve gone for quite some time. Almost as long as I. Do you plan to press anyone on these answers? I shall await your promised wall of text with gherkins. [Play on word for Relish.]
Still lurky. Still lurky. Get in here Jemboy and try to… Jerky? Anyways, you’re lurking. Could you try doing some more? I don’t know if you’re scum or town BUT I do know that you should post a bit more often.

Spoiler: Mastahcheese (click to show/hide)

I asked him to question others and give his reads. Other than that I said his play was decent overall. He’s certainly posted a lot more since then. Let’s give it a read, shall we?

Why? Because you don't have any questions of your own to ask?
-snip-
So, stop thinking so hard. Just pick a glass and drink the damn wine, because both glasses are poisoned, and the other guy's immune.
And ask your own questions.

Why should I not ask a question that you failed to answer? If it's sitting right in front of me, completely untouched, does that mean I should take it up myself?
What you're suggesting is that I voluntarily limit the amount of weapons and tactics I use to hunt scum with, and not only is that an incredibly bad idea, it's advice that I, personally, would never give to someone.
If you have a weapon, you'd better freaking use it, whether it's someone else's or not. And I can guarantee that I'm not the only one who feels that way, calling someone out on failing to answer a question isn't lazy, it's called scumhunting, where you find where they slip up, and act on it.
So tell me, makeinu, why would you have me limit the amount of weapons at my disposal? Are you trying to make me an ineffective scumhunter? Why are you dodging questions in the first place?

That right there was beautiful. I didn’t even catch it until after the lynch. Good job on that one.

Nerjin:
May I request that you provide two things for us?
[1] An in-character read on everybody.
[2] An IC assessment on everyone's progress.

Done and somewhat done. I have some more stuff to say about the second but I’m going to wait until the person is dead before I say that stuff.

   

Praise be: for the JKer!

Yeah, I actually had to reread that twice, because I was like "wait, who died? I think we're all here..." before realizing that we must have had an excellent doctor.
Impeccable work, good sir or madam! We're off to an excellent start.

Ah, here's something I wanted to actually bring up before it happened. Just like we're hunting for Scum, the scum are hunting for Power-roles. Here's the thing, one of the "doctor-tells" is praising the doctor. It comes off as stroking your own ego. I'm not sure if you're the doctor or not but I know the remaining scum and the Scum IC are certainly debating whether you are or not. For some reason I doubt you’re the Jail-keeper but… They’re certainly considering it.
Pretty damn good for a first timer. Are you sure you’ve not played other places before? That being said don’t let it go to your head. I’m getting a pretty good town-read from you.

Spoiler: MOWE (click to show/hide)

Last time I mentioned that MOWE had yet to actually follow up on her questions that have been answered. Other than that I didn’t really have much for her. Let’s see

MyOwnWorstEnemy: One person was pressing very hard one another for scummy behavior, but the presser ends up getting killed in the night, and flips cop. What's your next plan of action?

Since a cop found it worthwhile to pursue this person and was promptly killed as a result, I think it's safe to say that the person is scum. I would then go back and look at this person's past to try to find some more solid evidence.

Mostly correct there. Although I’d say that the portion I bolded is up for debate. Remember that cops can only inspect one person a night so don’t assume that their main suspect was scum right off the bat. You should HEAVILY suspect the person is scum but unless the cop stated outright “I know you’re scum” or something to that effect they may have just been suspicious.

Jembot, I find you the scummiest person by far. You were last active this morning at approximately 1:30. I posted my accusation yesterday at 4:30 in the afternoon. What's the issue?

[/quote]

From what I'm gathering you voted Jemmy Boy because he was asking about  role that wasn't in this game and he lurked? Is that correct? If not could you expand on what your case on him was?

Persus: Fairly active compared to most. I find this suspicious. It's almost like you're trying to be here while staying unnoticed. This being said, I have seen no strong indication that your scum.

I think you're looking for the term "Active Lurking".

As for you, did you miss the part where I said "I have no strong indication that you're scum"? If I'm going to accuse you, I'm going to have a better reason than "I think you're active-lurking."

Yeah, I used to do this. As someone told me "You're not the ... batman". It can sometimes seem like this is a good strategy. Maybe in face-to-face mafia it is. In forum mafia there's too much time between posts for this to be a viable strategy I'm afraid. But hey, at least you're trying something new right? Like I said earlier: Try to find the way to play that works for you.

Seems pretty solid to me.  Other than being restricted by “Phone Only” play I find her rather town-appearing.
[/spoiler]

Spoiler: Persus13 (click to show/hide)

Last time I basically told them that they weren’t scum-hunting and was instead just saying something to avoid getting called out for lurking. I told them to press a case… Did they?

Makeinu: Town hunting? No sir. Scum hunt town (in a way) and town hunt scum, finding town in the process. This stinks of scum.

Hunting someone and deciding their town is a perfectly legitimate strategy. I'll agree with you that makeinu seems scummy, but when you're becoming the third vote on a player you need better reasoning than this. Quoting generally helps your case too, unless you're making a false case.

True, true, and true. However: Setting out to find town-players isn't really helpful for Scum-hunting [which is, I believe, what MOWE was talking about].

Plus, as MOWE has stated, she does not have a computer. Only a phone. It is hard to do this stuff on a phone. Hell it's sometimes hard to get it right on a computer.

D2 is here! Either scum went with a NL (which I doubt) or our JKer picked the right person to roleblock/protect.

You assume we actually HAVE a JK. This is a dangerous assumption to go with. I remember in the BM I hosted [which our gracious host Tiruin actually participated in] there were a few days with no-night-kills due to various internet reasons. NEVER assume that we have something. Instead go with the idea that “There was no night-kill! Awesome!” and leave it at that.

Anyway, so today I recommend rereading the thread, and looking at interactions with Makeinu.

MOWE, why did you vote Makeinu yesterday?

What was yours?
Hm… Everything seems on the up-and-up to me. Keep in mind people, that if I don’t say something about it I likely didn’t have anything TO say about it.

Spoiler: Sinlessmoon (click to show/hide)

I had voted him because he was doing absolutely nothing. He hadn’t even posted IN the thread. Thankfully this has stopped. Let’s see what he’s done:

Why hello there everyone! I've been pretty busy, so in order to make up for that suspicious behavior; you can ask me any question you would like.

A ton of people had. You still haven’t answered all of them. READ THE THREAD and then ANSWER THE QUESTIOS please.

•Sinlessmoon - You're a cop on day 2, the person you examined the night before was the doctor, and they're lurking. Do you try to get them to be more active to keep them alive? How would you go about doing this without starting a bandwagon on them?

I would attempt to get them just a tiny bit active, not so much as to arouse suspicion; but to placate peoples opinions about them.

I haven't seen enough to properly determine someone to lynch so...

Extend.

Prodding someone for inactivity is a very good way to push suspicion on them. Setting aside the fact that COPS DO NOT SEE YOUR ROLE WHEN THEY INSPECT YOU there is also the issue that a lurker isn’t very helpful to us either way.

Perhaps you’d see more to determine someone to lynch if you asked questions and didn’t play so reactively after so long lurking.

Don't worry about strategies, just go in guns blazing if that's what it takes. If you make a mistake, you can learn from it. But you can't learn nearly as much from watching others as you can from trying things yourself. Get yourself out of your comfort zone. Remember, it's more fun to be active then passive (at least for me) and it's more fun for other people as well when you're active. I'd love to question you and see how you react, but you're not giving me anything to question. If you mess up, that's part of the game, just get out here and join our party.

I prefer not to mess up though. But you're right, that's why I have been putting a lot more effort into my posts. I'm definitely still not where I want to be in terms of being able to play forum Mafia well, but hey; I'm trying right?

If you let fear rule you than you won’t accomplish much. Yeah, fear sucks. BUT everyone else in here is just as afraid as you. This seems more like an excuse than anything else. Plus this is your first post where you actually do anything other than say “I’m reading the thread”. You’ve gone from Lurking to Active-lurking. This is a good first step. How about you kick it up to being Active next? Just do your best.

[2] I'll agree that scum should do this, but sometimes they don't. That's why lurkers can be so dangerous.

I'd rather scum be active, I can see why lurkers could be dangerous, but on one hand; they might just be busy. I was lurking just because I wasn't really sure of how to initiate myself. Now however, you can see that I'm not lurking and creating an informative posts. (Relatively. )

I fixed that for you. Most of your posts have been very passive or saying that “I’m reading the threat” as I stated before. But you’re starting to improve so I won’t hold it against you too much. How about some more good posts?

So far, the two players on my watch list are Makeinu, and Superblackcat. Both seem equally suspicious in the way they seem to be incredibly pro-lynch.

As god damn well they should be! Lynching is, once again, TOWN’S ONLY POWER IN THIS GAME! Without a lynch we lose while we let mafia pick us off one by one.
Still not active enough for my liking. He’s active-lurking right now with one pretty decent post. I implore you to keep posting stuff like that.

Spoiler: Superblackcat (click to show/hide)

I stated he needed to ask questions and actually get into the game. From the 27 posts he’s made I’ll take it as a good sign going into this read. Let’s see how he’s done.

Makeinu Why such an interest to what I think about scum hunting? Trying to improve your game? ;P

You kept your vote on him this entire time for that? Well… I suppose it worked out in the end however I would like to point out that if you know what someone thinks about scumhunting you can better analyze what they’re doing. For example: NQT likes to analyze vote patterns and [as of late] who has the most posts. I personally don’t think that stuff has as much of an influence as he thinks. HOWEVER if NQT suddenly started hunting like I do I would be really suspicious of him and would question why his way of hunting changed. Knowing how someone thinks can be pretty helpful towards figuring them and, by extension, their game out.

Well... The JK had a 50/50 chance. He might have blocked mafia, or protected mafia kill.

That being said. DO NOT OUT YET. Wait for the day to be more on its way. Even then, use your own judgement.

You should never "out" yourself as a power role unless it will help Town. Doing so now would only paint a target on their back. That being said they had much less than a 50/50 chance.
There were several times when he posted nothing of content “Quote Makeinu!” and in those instances I have this to say: What did you want him to quote?

Other times he posted several times in a row. This is also bother-some and serves only to inflate your post-count and add fatigue to players on re-reads. Carefully consider what you’re about to post before you post it okay?

Other than that he seems to be doing alright. No real big things to point out.