Topic: Zoegate, AKA the fall of Video Game Media. (Read 27259 times)

werty892 · « **on:** August 19, 2014, 10:46:19 pm »

Welp, ladies and gentlemen, it's happened, the same thing that happened to TV and print news, they have become corrupt and broken. As we speak, a massive shitstorm is flowing its way across the internet, all because of one person, Zoe Quinn. She made the game Depression Quest, which I know has been on these forums before, and used sex, doxxing, lying, manipulation, and "being oppressed" to get money and get her "game" on steam and stomp out anyone who critiques her. Right now, posts across reddit, 4chan, SA, Neogaf, etc etc, are being deleted by people trying to suppress this, and it's not working, thanks Streisand effect.

Really, this vid explains it better than I can.

Spoiler: A few tl;drs (click to show/hide)

Quote from: TotalBiscuit

The long and short of it is that Zoey Quinn the developer of Depression Quest is being accused of exploiting the nepotism that tends to plague this industry by getting a bunch of favorable coverage from people she has supposedly slept with. In addition to this, videos supposedly critical of these actions have been taken down from Youtube with copyright claims, including a video by a smaller channel called MundaneMatt. It's difficult to tell what is true and what is not. 4chan is all up in arms over it which means that alongside any truth there's always going to be ridiculous stories and trolling attempts. 4chan is a blunderbuss. It's a giant cannon filled with fuckin screws, nails, bodyparts, shit and waifu. When it fires, maybe 1% of it hits and the other 99% just goes everywhere and makes a mess. Added into this whole drama shitstorm is a cadre of SJW types and whoever it is that is opposed to that, MRAs? I don't even know the terminology at this point and frankly I don't fucking care. The kind of places posting information about this whole thing are also places I'd take with a pinch of salt or who already have a clearly outlined agenda. Internetaristocrat did the main video on this, a channel mostly dedicated to debunking SJW topics and complaining about how prevalent they are in todays media. A fair cause for the most part, though it's a fine line to walk at the best of times. Honestly that whole debate is something I try and stay the hell away from because the people involved in it are fucking terrifying.

Quote from: /u/Sciencekid42

TL;DR: Zoe Quinn maker of the game Depression Quest was said to have been bother by people on some website called wizardchan and posted about that harassment on twitter which is said to be a lie. Her husband posted some 5000 word response on his blog about all the bad Zoe did to him. Zoey has also been rumored (not really any confirm source for this.) to had sex with video game reviews to boost her score for Depression Quest. Lastly doxxed this guy[3] and other stuff. There are other things like the DMCA and possibly some more things I might have missed in this "scandal."

Reddit mod corruption
Doxxing, lying and manipulation in TFYC
Wizardchan lying proof
Zoepost blog where her husband spills everything.

This is unreal... More info will be added as it becomes available.

smjjames · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2014, 10:49:28 pm »

Should I mention Electronic Arts?

GlyphGryph · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2014, 10:52:21 pm »

This seems really stupid and completely overblown in every possible way, and seems to be notable simply and solely because people enjoy getting upset about it.

Quote from: TotalBiscruit

Honestly that whole debate is something I try and stay the hell away from because the people involved in it are fucking terrifying.

Also, Game's Media has always been corrupt and broken, and absolutely nothing about this situation even seems particularly relevant to that, or has altered the shape of things in any way whatsoever. There is nothing "unreal" about this. It seems, predominantly and primarily, incredibly trite.

Evilsx · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2014, 10:55:19 pm »

Quote from: GlyphGryph on August 19, 2014, 10:52:21 pm

This seems really stupid and completely overblown in every possible way, and seems to be notable simply and solely because people enjoy getting upset about it.

Quote from: TotalBiscruit
Honestly that whole debate is something I try and stay the hell away from because the people involved in it are fucking terrifying.

Fixed

Willfor · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2014, 11:03:12 pm »

Can I point out the reason for so many deletions on reddit/etc is because entire populations of teenagers are wildly breaking the law by posting her address, the addresses and contact information of anyone who has ever tangentially associated themselves with her, and generally being the filth of humanity? For fucks sake.

freeformschooler · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2014, 11:07:22 pm »

the real non-corrupt games media, enlighten yourself and ignore the zoe shitstorm

seriously though who cares

play some video games if you need to wind down

Cthulhu · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2014, 11:27:04 pm »

Because videogame media has in the past been such a bastion of quality journalism.

I've never played or looked at depression quest because I have literally zero interest in interactive fiction games, so maybe I'm just out of the loop. But it's got le wimmen and she's doing le sex at people so naturally le reddit is up in arms.

I agree with freeform, who gives a shit? I make it a point to actively care less about anything I find out le reddit cares about.

alexandertnt · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2014, 11:33:14 pm »

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

nenjin · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2014, 11:34:17 pm »

#firstworldgamingproblems

Quote from: werty892 on August 19, 2014, 10:46:19 pm

Really, this vid explains it better than I can.

He's treating corruption like it's a novel concept in the video games and video games journalism industries. It's not. This just happens to be incredibly salacious....which.....wait for it.....is exactly the kind of crap the media he criticizes glomps on to. Gotta get dat scoop!

Frumple · « **Reply #9 on:** August 20, 2014, 12:07:12 am »

Is it even incredibly salacious, though? I mean, salacious, sure, but incredibly? Maybe for video game media, I'unno, but the overviews I've seen in passing so far have been more than a little underwhelming insofar as pinging the salaciometer goes. Like, not even a tuesday in comparison to your average politician getting their whores and booze on.

Admittedly, that's probably because there's a hell of a lot more money being thrown at political blackjack and hookers, but still.

LordSlowpoke · « **Reply #10 on:** August 20, 2014, 12:07:50 am »

lol sjw

literally all i have to say about this

alway · « **Reply #11 on:** August 20, 2014, 01:03:27 am »

Yeah, this isn't really anything notable. Keep in mind, we in the games industry have always paid off the reviews by giving them free, early reviewer copies of games. Which may or may not include additional swag. Or money. I mean, heck, they even had the whole youtuber astroturfing issue which came up recently regarding paid game adverts presented as personal opinion, to the point where it was illegal.

Someone lying on the internet or using 4chan tactics? Pshaw, I say

Detharon · « **Reply #12 on:** August 20, 2014, 01:34:57 am »

It's just an independent developer, why would anyone care? Personally, it's the first time I hear about her or her game.

For me, game industry started to rot when selling unfinished products was no longer frowned upon by players. It's not uncommon to see developers, who strip content from the base game, so it can be purchased in a bunch of DLCs shortly after its release. Or the "early access" thingy, where players are tricked to pay for a dream of their game, and they usually end up being disappointed.

Sergarr · « **Reply #13 on:** August 20, 2014, 01:39:11 am »

For we the game industry started to rot when people discovered that hype brings more money than quality.

acetech09 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 20, 2014, 01:49:22 am »

Quote from: GlyphGryph on August 19, 2014, 10:52:21 pm

This seems really stupid and completely overblown in every possible way, and seems to be notable simply and solely because people enjoy getting upset about it.

Nailed it. All industries since the dawn of time have had corruption scandals... not sure what's so special about this one.

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