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[Tawa]

Tawa: That role seems pretty bullshit. It makes the most sense for it to be an auto (as it seems like you have to use it the same night that your target kills), but then it would kill scum every time they NK'd. So it'd be impossible for scum to win, thus game balance means that role is, overpowered. Because if there isn't a prevention for it... most of my roles are actually pretty shit, so I wouldn't know ;P

It's a target skill, you silly.

Spoiler: Excuse me but (click to show/hide)

Tawarochir, your action is a KILL. I have word that my roleblock worked and yet it is also an unconventional roleblock. It is a roleblock that blocks the target from using any abilities that are NOT Kill/Doctor/Cop/Roleblock/Jailkeep.

You've got some 'splaining to do, punk. That is obviously a kill action, and it is obviously written in Flabort^TM that the block was successful.

Being "can't be prevented" is not an alibi in this case, which I scrutinizingly poured over in reading that one ability.

WHAT
WE GETTING OUR SOCRATES JONES ON NOW?
WELL WE'LL NEED DRAMATIC MUSIC IN THAT CASE

So, anyway. Let me get this straight. Your roleblock stops anybody from using a power that isn't kill, doctor, cop, roleblock/jailbreak, right? Were you told you were successful, or that my action failed? And it says that I was "interrupted" and blocked; perhaps I was targeted by you and somebody else?

Either that, or you're lying, Tiruin. Or possibly somebody has a role that stops me from doing something.

[Tiruin]

So, anyway. Let me get this straight. Your roleblock stops anybody from using a power that isn't kill, doctor, cop, roleblock/jailbreak, right? Were you told you were successful, or that my action failed? And it says that I was "interrupted" and blocked; perhaps I was targeted by you and somebody else?

Either that, or you're lying, Tiruin. Or possibly somebody has a role that stops me from doing something.

It says I was successful So you pretty much did not do a Kill/Doctor/Cop/Roleblock/Jailkeep.

[Tiruin]

To paraphrase what was sent to me, I spotted you doing some 'funny business'. So considering that ability and what I saw, I'm assuming logic stands here.

Flabort: What does 'successful' mean when pertaining to an action with limitations?

[Tawa]

I used a kill power. There's either a third party, or TolyK has a power that's screwing with our results.

[Deus Asmoth]

TMS:

DA: Probably town. As confirmed. Possible rolechange (I guess, always a possibility in these games), but he can't be the Cult leader. Could be cultist. His kills can't be protected from, but replace the target instead.

I'm scum hunting right now. Effectively? Perhaps not. But in a fashion that amuses me, which is much better.

Stated that he's not exactly scumhunting at his best. Worrying... especially when you realize all the commotion that his scumhunting stirs up, which only gets people to suspect him, which is bad for the town. On the other hand, he doesn't feel too urgent. Which... normally, I wouldn't say is a terrible thing, but since there's a Cult Leader, that's pretty big. I'd give him a scummy lean because he is outright making himself seem scummy. Scum usually wouldn't do that, however, and there lies a problem. Still, he's wasting time.

Also: With his logic, no one is going to vote with him. Doesn't seem like he's actually scum hunting.

And it's gonna be hard to kill him. He still has a revive. If we lynch him, we're basically roleblocking him for a night.

What exactly are you trying to say here? Am I probably town or not? If so, why do you want to lynch and/or kill me in the first place?

Tawa, does eating NQT's soul prevent his other roles from working?

[Deus Asmoth]

Also:

Sargent and Griffin, what alignment are you?

[TolyK]

I used a kill power. There's either a third party, or TolyK has a power that's screwing with our results.

... why me, specifically? I have only made chats at night and tried not to die, so I don't see how I got into all this.

[flabort]

Flabort:
1) If a PC is replaced, can they still post in quicktopics?
2) Does their replacement get their infractions replaced?
3) Can a replaced player replace the player that replaced them?
4) If a player is modkilled (via 6 infractions), can they be revived?
5) If (4) happens, do they end up with 0 infractions and have their powers work?
6) If a player is killed and they end up with 0 infractions and their powers would cause them to not die, what exactly happens?
7) Can dead players take non-targeted actions?
Is this too many questions?

1) Due to hopefully any replacements being due to lack of activity, this won't come up. If it does, I think so.
2) Infractions reset to 0 on death or replacement.
3) OK.
4) Hmmm... Yes.
5) Yes, and just a reminder that powers are only frozen by infractions for a single cycle.
6) They don't die, so their infractions stay
7) Huh? Question does not sense.
*shrugs*

7) Can dead players take non-targeted actions?

Also this. I'd like this question answered.
So my question is this: If a player/NPC got four infractions, could I replace in for that player?

If you previously occupied that player slot, I guess. I don't know in what situation an NPC would have replaced into your player slot, but anything's possible. I never foresaw this line of questioning.

Also, another question: What happens when a dead player gets 4 infractions? What happens when a dead player gets 6 infractions?

Why would you ASK this?! I don't know!
*goes crazy thinking about it*
Oh, wait. 4 infractions is still replacement.
6, though.... not sure. Perhaps being twice-dead? (requiring twice the revives to revive?)

Sargent: If you resurrect me, I'll join your squad as a recruit. Sound fair?

AFFIRMATIVE PRIVATE ZOMBIE FALLACY. I AM NOT A MEDIC, THOUGH, AND CANNOT CURE DEAD

Day action: Eat notquitethere's soul.

EVENT!
Nothing happens. NQT remains dead but in the game, but dead.

Flabort: On distributing the roles, along with the base '2' roles people submitted [if they only submitted 2], did you randomly pick and roll who to send what to?

Yes. It's the design of the setup.

Flabort: What does 'successful' mean when pertaining to an action with limitations?

It means successful. Define "limitations". Sorry for being curt, but I need more context; Are you asking whether or not the claimed power is directly or indirectly a kill power, or whether it counts as one for the purposes of your power, or what? Because I can't answer questions about specific powers here, or about other people's powers in PM.

Also:

Sargent and Griffin, what alignment are you?

RAAR buck buck

Also:

Sargent and Griffin, what alignment are you?

NEVER REVEAL YOUR ALIGENCES TO THE ENEMY, PRIVATE. 20 laps around the subforum, GO GO GO!

Extension votes: 1/4


Votecount
Tawarochir:
TheDarkStar:
Hector13 (I): 
The Moonlit Shadow: 
Tiruin: Deus Asmoth,
4maskwolf: 
Shakerag:
Teneb:
TolyK (II):
Deus Asmoth:  Tawarochir,
THE GRIFFIN:
THE SARGENT:
A Tumbling Tumbleweed:

Not voting: TheDarkStar,  TheMoonlitShadow, TheMoonlitShadow, Tiruin, 4maskwolf, Shakerag,  Teneb, TolyK, Hector13,  THE GRIFFIN, THE SARGENT

Oh, and FallacyofUrist gets an Infraction for dead-anti-lurking (Posting while dead is treated as lurking, in reverse; a second attempt will yield 3 infractions, leading to replacement).

Day ends Tuesday afternoon, in about ~64 hours

[Deus Asmoth]

What's anti-town about my play?

[Deus Asmoth]

How is my scumhunting any more ineffective than, say, for example, completely at random, yours?

[Deus Asmoth]

That's not an answer. Same question again. And I said it might not be effective, because I've never tried playing like this before. I don't think I'm obligated to stick to the same playstyle religiously, do you?

In any case, I have some interesting information. I tried to perform an action on our Sargent, which just failed. Sarge, what's your game?

[TolyK]

Ineffective scumhunting, drawing attention to yourself while diverting attention from your target.

I'm pretty sure this is the definition of bad play, not of scum play.
(OR HE'S A JESTER!!!1! /jokes)


I feel really shitty (headache etc.) so I'll answer the standing questions directed to me and yeah.

Votecount pls.

I had another one, but FallacyofUrist revealed early D1 that he had a copy of the role (indirectly), so I gave it to him N1.

So, you started with one, gave it to FoU, and eventually...

Hold up. Hold right on up.

I'll elaborate on this in a bit (as time allows - I still have lots to do as well as sleep before tomorrow -.-), but it seems to me like something doesn't add up. 4maskwolf for now.

Care to explain what this hunch of yours is, or are you happy to leave it ambiguous so you can get away with just about any explanation later?

Tolyk: Yes, I'd like to know too.

I suspected 4mask being the original infraction-giver, who I believed was anti-town, and of faking the "which alignments are at the beginning of the day" role. This is also partially because I said something about a cult, and there, magically, was a cult alignment.

I still have these suspicions, but for some reason I've lessed them a bit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Very in-line to have 2 cult members with his previous claim:

8 town, 2 mafia, 2 cult, outsider, town-ally.

So I dunno what to make of it.


Tiruin: Those huge sentences with interjections sometimes burn my reading comprehension out. 

Anyway! Someone exchanged with me a role that I most likely believe they knew the name of (hint: It's specifically dealing with what happened yesterday--and given the shift of mention today,

Did you give any more info about this?

I can easily rule out that Tawarochir is NOT the cult leader because I did something to him last night. :V Do you feel lucky like that? Well do you, punk?

Not quite sure how what you did rules it out, tho.

I'm basically asking everyone's reads as of this moment. Also is massclaiming a good idea? I'm all for that too.

I also would like to forward the idea of those who have flipped TOWN to claim everything they did earlier that they are comfy with [ie Basically claiming anything that helps narrow down the scum-spects] because this works as a double-edge for them if they have revived under another alignment[/b]

I'm ok for claiming like 90% of my role. The 10% would be insurance. Actions I have already claimed (2 chats).

TMS -- Newbie. I'm leaning neutral because despite the >_>'y ness of his posts, he reminds me of TolyK.

TolyK -- >_> I don't know anymore. He's been a hectic bunch of tumbleweeds [mafia-relation not meant; figurative mention really meant.] because of his attitude the whole game. HOWEVER I don't think he's Mafia given his blatant outrightness in going 'everyone can win! I need notes on the Mafia ' <_> Though I usually assume that Mafia = teamplay and his play is...not team-oriented. Especially with that presumed 'Nuke-in-a-box' he's holding; still doesn't strike somewhat town-y because HE HASN'T USED IT. A very noteful thing for later on.

I'll elaborate on this in a bit (as time allows - I still have lots to do as well as sleep before tomorrow -.-), but it seems to me like something doesn't add up. 4maskwolf for now.

Elaborate harder, now.

Elaborated harder, ma'am.

TolyK (II): Since you can speak, and since you can boat, update on your current everything-you-can-tell.

I've also realized that nobody can win while NQT is...existing. I have a power to wipe him from existence but it activates only at night (inclusive with his roles--so he's basically not playing, as far as I know).

I initially thought you were scum for suggesting this. NQT didn't elaborate.
However, apparently it's difficult to remove him from the game, given the day event.

You kill the person dictated in the set of people who probably-aren't-the-cult-leader. :3

Why I say so is because
1. I fail math.

[2 mafia]+[2 cult] = 4 scum.

(Yeaaah I'm dum >_>)
But that hilariously means 3 town and 1 Outsider :v and I'm sure as fish that I'm town [barring a role I have that makes me silly :V]

But anyway. Logic time.
There are 9 players here. (Maybe barring yourself since you see 8? :V).
I'm grouping them into the roles we initially know, to seek out the C. Lead.

Tawarochir = ?
TheDarkStar = ?
The Moonlit Shadow = Possibility due to not having posted yet :v
Tiruin = I acted last night on Tawarochir; if I'm suspected to be the cult leader, that means I'm tied with him--I however have BLOCKED his [unconventional] action and he must have received a note from that, so awaiting his notice.
4maskwolf = ?
Shakerag = ?
Teneb = ?
Deus Asmoth = Is Grima. Can Daykill. Then the dude that gets killed has infractions.

TolyK (II) = Cannot act; is not cult leader [unless hilarity means he can act despite being infraction'd.]
Hector13 (I) = Outsider.
*FallacyOfUrist has not come back to life? Is TolyK the reviver then? [since he can't act and nobody has been revivified] :V

Oh, so scum #'s and cult #'s are the same, and scum + cult = town  + outsider? Whoo!

PFP

Is this too many questions?

The smiley was intentional I believe? :v

It was unintentinal, but I kept it when previewing. :>

TDS has a kill.

Where do you know this from?

This is probably the best-thought-through list of reads so far. :

I'm scum hunting right now. Effectively? Perhaps not. But in a fashion that amuses me, which is much better.

Stated that he's not exactly scumhunting at his best. Worrying... especially when you realize all the commotion that his scumhunting stirs up, which only gets people to suspect him, which is bad for the town. On the other hand, he doesn't feel too urgent. Which... normally, I wouldn't say is a terrible thing, but since there's a Cult Leader, that's pretty big. I'd give him a scummy lean because he is outright making himself seem scummy. Scum usually wouldn't do that, however, and there lies a problem. Still, he's wasting time.

Also: With his logic, no one is going to vote with him. Doesn't seem like he's actually scum hunting.

And it's gonna be hard to kill him. He still has a revive. If we lynch him, we're basically roleblocking him for a night.

Tawa: Poofed. Either lurking or blocked. I'd say lurking since there's no reason to block him - we want more content. So... I dunno. We'll see if he shows up.

TDS: Has a kill. He basically asked us to lynch him D1, so now we think he's unlynchable. Not sure if anyone tried to kill him. It's possible he has a role that makes him unlynchable on D1, however.

Only two posts so far today are about the new NPC's. And not too important posts either. I think he's scummy. He's got us to think that he's unlynchable, which is huge for scum (and not exactly huge for town, why town want to waste a lynch like that).

TDS: I'd like to know what those other things you prevent from happening are.

Shakerag: Questionable. Don't trust Flabort saying he's confirmed town, as he also said he's jester. I'm not sure how much we can trust Flabort here.

Generally not very active. A 'eat me' thingy post on D1. Some stuffs on D3 which I don't think was hugely consequential. Feels like he's not here. Could be Cult leader? Wonder if anyone roleblocked him N1. Probably not town due to lack of activity.

Teneb: Is gonna answer some questions soon. Reasonable guess that both new NPC's are town. Unlike Ragshake, these NPC's seem a lot less independent. Don't know if that's Flabort with stuff or something else. Towny lean.

Flabort: Made a few mistakes, but doing pretty good as far as 80 roles are concerned IMO. Don't know if we can believe him, however.

There's 14 people on that list. There are only 13 players.

My mistake. 1 less town then that.

This seems legit, though. Wonder if that extra town was OSG?

Hector: Outsider. Concerned with Ragshake, as he should be. However, not quite concerned enough to the point that he's reading through the roles carefully to see who can help him. As in, DA. As DA said, that would help him hugely anyway.

Hector: May I ask if you can still use your abilities?

Seems like a disinterested outsider. I mean, I'm one to talk, but still. No scumminess that I can see. Autocorrect wants to change scumminess to yumminess.
[/quote]
Yummy.

TolyK: No longer seems to think everyone can win. I think he can use his abilities now - his two infractions only blocked him for last phase. We'll see what changed.

He can talk to others, which is a pretty big deal. He's a big cultist target now - he can make a cultchat (assuming that there isn't one). That being said, he can also lie very easily. So... just remember that he could still lie. Just because it's only you and him doesn't mean he can't. And who knows? It might not be only you and him.

If the infraction giver was scum, then he's probably not scum. The only reason I can think of would be to stop one of his auto's if it was a bad auto.

His questions about the NPC infraction stuff is well deserved. However the only other thing he's done is a 'WTF' to DA's random voting which could be a reprimand (though that's dumb, if he wanted to do that he wouldn't have to tell us), or a fake. Since he really didn't back it up.

Neutral lean, a little too jumbled up.

I still believe it's possible for everyone to win (or at least most alive people), however I have 0 information on the cult.
I also don't know who the other two mafia members are (never told :3). However, why the eating-NQT thing failed is unclear. Lots of things still unclear.

At least some of my roles still work. :3


Jeez that was a lot. I don't think there was much content there, either. 

[TolyK]

Ugh... I'm not even going to bother. It's more or less clear enough. 

[TolyK]

I'd find it likely that Cult can't convert Mafia members, unfortunately. Otherwise I'd probably have known. >.>

[TolyK]

Hint: I talk with NQT sometimes.