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Author Topic: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.  (Read 82132 times)

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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #675 on: April 08, 2021, 09:59:35 pm »

slut is a gender neutral term of endearment
Amongst equal friends perhaps, much in the same way that one could call one's best mate a fuckface but you wouldn't greet a stranger as so without expecting great insult to be incurred
It’s not really gender neutral either. Promiscuity among females is still viewed pretty universally poorly, whereas the inverse is true for promiscuous males.
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« Reply #676 on: April 09, 2021, 11:09:17 am »

Context matters a lot too.  It has a completely different meaning coming from a stranger on the street instead of a close "friend", or describing oneself :P

It does get a lot of gender-neutral use nowadays despite its original meaning.  Words change and all!

Related unpopular opinion:  I still don't really like being referred to as "queer", even in completely benign contexts.  But I like that other people like it?  I'm actually happy that my gut feeling is unpopular, reclaiming slurs is tricky but cool.

Remember when "nerd" was a really rude thing to call someone?  And it's still possible to use it as a real insult, despite being a bit defanged these days.

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« Reply #677 on: April 09, 2021, 12:37:02 pm »

Context matters a lot too.  It has a completely different meaning coming from a stranger on the street instead of a close "friend", or describing oneself :P

It does get a lot of gender-neutral use nowadays despite its original meaning.  Words change and all!

Related unpopular opinion:  I still don't really like being referred to as "queer", even in completely benign contexts.  But I like that other people like it?  I'm actually happy that my gut feeling is unpopular, reclaiming slurs is tricky but cool.

Remember when "nerd" was a really rude thing to call someone?  And it's still possible to use it as a real insult, despite being a bit defanged these days.

For me, Queer is way easier than LGBTQ+ because you don't pronounce each letter and also I transpose numbers/letters sometimes so I need to be careful and double-check acronyms. Plus it's been used as a slur the least during my lifetime, which is helpful with my comfort. Edit: For me to be called. I do my best to call others what they want, but I'll fall back on my own comfort if I don't know/remember others' preferences.

And yeah, I was GMing a TTRPG at a comic book store, and felt weird about referring to the players as nerds.
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« Reply #678 on: May 16, 2021, 03:52:43 pm »

For discussion of the controversial kind:
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« Reply #679 on: May 17, 2021, 04:08:44 am »

That's sort of like the aphorism "your keys are always found the last place you look for them"

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« Reply #680 on: May 17, 2021, 05:30:15 am »

Ah, "useful words and phrases in ordinary language are wrong because of these very literal and specific interpretations of them". That's not a controversial opinion, it's a quibble about semantics dressed up to look like a thesis about the real world.

Have you ever considered studying metaphysics? I think it'd be perfect for you.



Potentially controversial opinion: it would be in the best interests of almost everyone in the region for Israel to formally annex all or most of Palestine. This is the only outcome likely to offer the citizens of Palestine any measure of peace and security.
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« Reply #681 on: May 17, 2021, 07:46:39 am »

Oh yes, not just metaphysics, but also metacognizance.

I guess the "controversial" aspect is really that careless use of phrases is dangerous.  So yes while I understand that common use of the phrases I listed, I think those common uses end up supporting a problematic view of the universe.  Words and ideas do matter.

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« Reply #682 on: May 17, 2021, 08:06:08 am »

Ah, "useful words and phrases in ordinary language are wrong because of these very literal and specific interpretations of them". That's not a controversial opinion, it's a quibble about semantics dressed up to look like a thesis about the real world.

Have you ever considered studying metaphysics? I think it'd be perfect for you.



Potentially controversial opinion: it would be in the best interests of almost everyone in the region for Israel to formally annex all or most of Palestine. This is the only outcome likely to offer the citizens of Palestine any measure of peace and security.

Well… Ireland comes to mind as an example of why that’s not a good idea. Politics and religion don’t mix too well.

Equally so, Netanyahu, while likely on the way out, has expressed disdain for the Arabic parts of Israel, so it still wouldn’t do them any good.
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« Reply #683 on: May 17, 2021, 08:46:40 am »

Home fries are superior to hash browns.
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« Reply #684 on: May 17, 2021, 09:10:16 am »

Home fries are superior to hash browns.

Yes. Is this controversial? Every time I've ordered hash browns in stead of home fries I've (unfortunately) lived to regret it, most places I've been to that serve "hash browns" just serve lightly brown strips of potato flesh and honestly it's gross as hell.
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« Reply #685 on: May 17, 2021, 09:37:24 am »

Hash browns can be pretty good, but I've never met anyone that actually says they're better than home fries, yeah. Home fries being superior isn't exactly controversial.
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« Reply #686 on: May 17, 2021, 11:14:56 am »

I feel obliged to mention that the "British chips vs US fries" discussion is looming large.

Horses for courses, naturally. (But let's not also bring lasagne into it, ok?) We're also in danger of bringing the Belgians into this fight.
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« Reply #687 on: May 17, 2021, 12:52:03 pm »

And the Dutch. Don't eat our hash. It's hard enough already to get some quality maroc nowadays with all the lockdowns.
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« Reply #688 on: May 17, 2021, 05:16:00 pm »

Yes. Is this controversial?

Maybe if you hate onions.
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« Reply #689 on: May 17, 2021, 06:06:20 pm »

What's onions got to do with it? Folks that can stand the taste of the nasty things put them in hash browns sometimes, but it's far from necessary or even default and they're generally not involved with home fries at all.

fake e: wait, shit, I see the problem now, there's at least two different things called home fries and I wasn't thinking about the one that does tend to have onions in it. The other's just well seasoned french fries/potato logs, and usually is just that and naught else.

... though tend is still not necessarily. Home fries sans onion are fine, too. Better to me 'cause onions are the metaphorical devil's asshole, but still. Either sort's better than hashbrowns tend to be when onions aren't involved.
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