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Total Members Voted: 106

[Powder Miner]

HF-32 General Performance Revision: A product of some of the Forenian engineers sitting down and deciding to fix the various relatively minor problems lowering the HF-32's combat performance, this revision to the plane'd design consists of replacing the landing gear with a retractable one, fitting the cockpit with an oxygen mask, and as a smaller priority attempting to fit it with a more efficiently-shaped propeller.

[Taricus]

HF-32 General Performance Revision (2): Powder Miner, Taricus

[NUKE9.13]

HF-32 General Performance Revision: A product of some of the Forenian engineers sitting down and deciding to fix the various relatively minor problems lowering the HF-32's combat performance, this revision to the plane'd design consists of replacing the landing gear with a retractable one, fitting the cockpit with an oxygen mask, and as a smaller priority attempting to fit it with a more efficiently-shaped propeller.

Is one option.

B2 Destroyer (Destroyer edition): An upscaled B2 designed for naval mounts. With a longer range and bigger punch, these will give our ships some offensive capabilities.

Is another.

Dolphin-N: A Dolphin torpedo modified for naval deployment, it has a significantly longer range and a magnetic detonator.

Is a third.

[andrea]

HF-32 General Performance Revision (3): Powder Miner, Taricus, Andrea

our HF-32 is almost on par with their fighter but cheaper. together with the cheap yellowjacket, this should help regaining air superiority, unless they deploy a completely new one.

[Powder Miner]

So much of our shit has been planned around abusing air superiority we can't afford to risk losing our air superiority hahaha.
This'll make it a hell of a lot more secure, if this revision goes well we should just chew them up and spit them out out there thanks to the addition of a bunch of yellowjackets and Tereshkova's expertise.

[Baffler]

Hard: 3
UFS-DD-38 Pattern E 'Archer': The Archer is Forenia's first combat ship. It is relatively small, and made of steel but unarmored, with two 90mm Bumblebee guns, complete with targeting system, in covered turrets on either side of a center con tower. There are also two more Bumblebees not in covered turrets, as the ones in the turrets were supposed to be larger originally. It is powered by two steam turbines, and it is relatively fast. Auxiliary weapons include an AS-AC18 on each side, and some Sorraia machineguns on railing mounts. There are also four Dolphin torpedo in launchers on deck: These are basically wooden chutes which can be aimed on a swivel, before the torpedo is released by untying a knot. [3 Ore, 2 Oil]

Shit. The intended design was undergunned, this thing is damn near useless. We'll need to revise to fix it, if not this turn, then the next at the latest.

[evictedSaint]

As we are currently slightly surpassing them in air power at the moment (likely due to our general) I say we can let that sit for the moment and do something instead about their ships. 

Dolphin-N:  By making a few minor improvements, the Dolphin-N is able to be dropped from higher speeds and from longer away.  The gyroscope is reinforced to make it more sturdy, the wet-heater is made more reliable to allow it to travel further, and we finally got around to installing the magnetic detonator, too!

Shit. The intended design was undergunned, this thing is damn near useless. We'll need to revise to fix it, if not this turn, then the next at the latest.

It's Cheap, and it is a Boat, and it has AA, and it drops Torpedos.  I'm very happy with it - could be better, but it actually floats and that's all we could have asked for with a Hard design.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

UF-RA-38 'Macross'
A pair of AS-RPG-28 A rockets modified to be attached to the underside of aircraft wings and launched by a switch within the cockpit.

Hard: 3
UFS-DD-38 Pattern E 'Archer': The Archer is Forenia's first combat ship. It is relatively small, and made of steel but unarmored, with two 90mm Bumblebee guns, complete with targeting system, in covered turrets on either side of a center con tower. There are also two more Bumblebees not in covered turrets, as the ones in the turrets were supposed to be larger originally. It is powered by two steam turbines, and it is relatively fast. Auxiliary weapons include an AS-AC18 on each side, and some Sorraia machineguns on railing mounts. There are also four Dolphin torpedo in launchers on deck: These are basically wooden chutes which can be aimed on a swivel, before the torpedo is released by untying a knot. [3 Ore, 2 Oil]

Shit. The intended design was undergunned, this thing is damn near useless. We'll need to revise to fix it. If not this turn, then the next at the latest.

Note: the Turrets were stated to be designed for a bigger gun.  Therefore, we can fit a bigger gun based on the bumblebee design within the ship itself.

Still, not too bad, Sensei said the turrets could have Rocket-Assisted Shells, and he is correcting the bumblebee size from the accidentally small 40mm to the actual 90mm.

[Powder Miner]

Would prefer messing with the destroyer the following turn, since a decisive air superiority will have the advantage not only of increasing our general performance and enabling our doctrine but also being very very scary.

We're currently slightly surpassing them. I'm not comfortable with leaving it at that, and genuinely good airpower will fill in a lot of our holes while we work on our navy.

[andrea]

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HF-32 General Performance Revision (3): Powder Miner, Taricus, Andrea

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

HF-32 General Performance Revision : Powder Miner, Taricus, Andrea
Dolphin-N: evictedSaint
Macross: Zanzetkuken
B2 Destroyer (Destroyer Edition):

[Baffler]

Air power did very little to help us negate the naval advantage in the last turn, and I don't really see how a destroyer that's too weak to do much of anything against other boats is going to change that. If this was the 1950's I could see it, but without MiG tier jet aircraft we're not going to be able to rely on it to make up for weakness at sea. How's this?

UFS-DD-38 Pattern E-2 'Archer': Based on the original DD-38 hull, this updated design features covered 155mm guns replacing the stopgapped 90mm turrets while retaining the uncovered bumblebee guns and secondary armaments. It is also fitted with larger boilers and reinforced gearing and crankshafts, sacrificing some fuel efficiency for a higher cruising speed.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Air power did very little to help us negate the naval advantage in the last turn, and I don't really see how a destroyer that's too weak to do much of anything against other boats is going to change that. If this was the 1950's I could see it, but without MiG tier jet aircraft we're not going to be able to rely on it to make up for weakness at sea. How's this?

UFS-DD-38 Pattern E-2 'Archer': Based on the original DD-38 hull, this updated design features covered 155mm guns replacing the stopgapped 90mm turrets while retaining the uncovered bumblebee guns and secondary armaments. It is also fitted with larger boilers and reinforced gearing and crankshafts, sacrificing some fuel efficiency for a higher cruising speed.

The Turrets are built for a bigger gun.  Ergo, we actually do not need to revise the ship, just make a bigger gun and the ship will automatically get them.

[Funk]

HF-32 General Performance Revision : Powder Miner, Taricus, Andrea, Funk
Dolphin-N: evictedSaint
Macross: Zanzetkuken
B2 Destroyer (Destroyer Edition):

[Baffler]

Air power did very little to help us negate the naval advantage in the last turn, and I don't really see how a destroyer that's too weak to do much of anything against other boats is going to change that. If this was the 1950's I could see it, but without MiG tier jet aircraft we're not going to be able to rely on it to make up for weakness at sea. How's this?

UFS-DD-38 Pattern E-2 'Archer': Based on the original DD-38 hull, this updated design features covered 155mm guns replacing the stopgapped 90mm turrets while retaining the uncovered bumblebee guns and secondary armaments. It is also fitted with larger boilers and reinforced gearing and crankshafts, sacrificing some fuel efficiency for a higher cruising speed.

The Turrets are built for a bigger gun.  Ergo, we actually do not need to revise the ship, just make a bigger gun and the ship will automatically get them.

This gets us a gun and better engines for the ship though, as opposed to revising for a gun which gets us a gun.