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Author Topic: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger  (Read 22536 times)

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #195 on: March 22, 2019, 03:54:16 pm »

13 days of silence for these rolls are over boys. Here's a plan so we can make the best of this turn.

 
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Fiscal Budget
Scrap:
None
Purchases:
3x AvDD.I/15 SBD.II Adderbolt
1x FEiV-15M
Upgrades:
Entsetzen: -> AvDD.I/15 SBD.II Adderbolt
Fischfänger: -> AvDD.I/15 SBD.II Adderbolt w/ FEiV-15M
Verteidiger: -> AvDD.I/15 SBD.II Adderbolt

Expenses:
Starting Budget:  +25 PP
Bonuses:             +0 PP
R&D:                   -2 PP
Scrap:                  0 PP
Purchases:            -15 PP
Upgrades:             -1 PP
Maintenance:        -7 PP
Left Over:              0 PP

Rationalization: This turn was a steaming pile of shit as far as rolls and what got poor rolls is concerned. So lets flood the sky with AvDD.I/15s. I bought a single improved radio for Fischfänger to take on a dedicated scouting role in the Strait, while Lowe goes on dedicated bombing with the new, better bombs. Overall, 3 more squads of Adderbolts should be enough to hold off any kind of plan they may have concocted. That, and the Teufel's coming next turn no matter what, so whatever they pull will be temporary.

Strategy & Execution

General Orders
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Front-specific Orders
Central Front:
Schruk and Verteidiger are to use their SBD.IIs to support the offensives towards Bont Gwyn and Cwymp cyflym. Rote and Kriegsmaid are to engage all and any enemy aerial assets and take them down with impunity to guarantee aerial superiority.
Western Front:
Rudel is to provide close air support by dropping bombs when asked to by ground forces - mainly at Dunklerfelsen. He's dedicated so he'll do more damage. Entsetzen is to use its radio to support friendly boots on the ground (both Sprungburg and Dunklerfelsen). Angesehen is to obliterate any and all opposition in the air.
Eastern Front:
Löwe is to commit to anti-shipping attacks via their bombs against the enemy navy. Launch, find enemy fleet, radio in to friendly fleet (Fisch) and dedicate to bombing (Löwe). Engage enemy fleet, while Fischfänger uses its better radios to scouts and informs the fleet. Maybe shoot some balloons down while you're at it if there's any on the group of ships you're attacking. Gold will provide cover.

Eastern Front
Löwe
Fischfänger
Gold
Central Front
Rote
Schurk
Verteidiger
Kriegsmäid
Western Front
Rudel
Angesehen
Entsetzen
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #196 on: March 22, 2019, 04:01:23 pm »

For lack of an alternative, and so that we can get a move on things:

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #197 on: March 22, 2019, 05:17:26 pm »

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #198 on: March 22, 2019, 06:03:46 pm »

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #199 on: March 23, 2019, 05:21:04 am »

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #200 on: April 02, 2019, 06:35:00 am »

Design Phase, Early Summer 1916
There is a new ace, Clauwes Mutzhas in Gold Geschwader

The admirals are pleased with the work done by the Luftjäger, and wish for you to keep up the good work on the enemy shipping, when they plan to initiate any major naval actions, they'll let you know.

The generals on the roads to Bont Gwyn and Cwymp Cyflym are pleased with the results, but would like more aircraft dedicated to the front to advance further and put more pressure on the Prens.

The general in charge of defending against Dremidydd Rosser's march to Dunklerfelsen is extremely thankful for your efforts to fight him back and the defense of the city, claiming that if things like this keep up, he'll be the one attacking soon enough. Meanwhile the general in charge of the defense of Sprungburg would like more aircraft to continue the advance and push the prens back further.

Shika Onishi and a few pilots along with aircraft from the shirohon southern territories have come with an offer to temporarily join the Luftjäger in exchange for 1 PP per two weeks, and are willing to stay for a month and a half, totaling 3 PP. They seem to have nothing good to say about the capitol region or the god king, and describe in a bit of detail the true extent that tensions in Shirohon have reached, and they make it clear that they are unable to guarantee that any samurai in the air space won't attempt to attack them, and they will defend themselves from their aggression if necessary. The planes at their disposal are 5 seater twin engine long range aircraft. While not suited for dogfighting. It relies on two pintile mounted machineguns, one mounted forward of the pilot, one behind. It also boasts a bomb bay. They seem to be copying our ways, seeing the effect of ground attack and turret gunners. Also that radial engine looks quite familiar. It's key feature is sustainability. Able to keep planes in the air even with severe wing damage.


High command has increased your budget by 3 PP, as the country devotes more factories to war.

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #201 on: April 02, 2019, 02:05:16 pm »

Quote from: Conference Submission (DRAFT)
Formal Request For Continued Interservice Support
As noted by all forces recently, air power has become a crucial component of war. Naval forces and ground forces are still key at actually taking territory, but with the support of our air power they are capable of a level of performance unobtainable without our assistance, yet unthinkable without their own dedication to the defense of our nation.

Recently, we have begun to decimate Pren Gwyn positions and nearly managed to eliminate their air force as a meaningful competitor to our own. They are, however, beginning to catch up, as is inevitable. Our enemies are sadly not fools, and could not allow their air forces to be completely destroyed. In order to maintain our advantage and continue to push back the enemy, we require additional aid in engineering new planes, help in moving designs into prototypes and prototypes into production. Presently the Drachen project is a promising means to transition our air power from a primarily reconnaissance and defensive role to a more offensive one, in which we are capable of taking the fight directly to the enemy, destroying their artillery, ships, and railroads, leaving them vulnerable. Just vulnerable enough, perhaps, for the Army and Navy to get the breakthrough they need to shatter the stalemate and send the Pren Gwyn running back to their capital.

In order for the Kaiserliche Luftjager to continue to provide support to the other arms of the military, we require the finishing of the Drachen project as fast as possible, and an increased budget when the time comes, so we can rapidly deploy the new aircraft to the fronts where it is needed most. We request engineering expertise from the Army and Navy for the short term so that the Drachen project will be completed, and request funding from both arms for when the project is finished and we need to build Drachens. Drachens funded by the contributions of either arm will be dedicated to fronts as requested by the arm that funded them, as we wish to aid the rest of our military in striking decisive blows.

The Luftjager believes that air power cannot fight wars on its own, and while we do hope to earn our place as a fellow branch of the military we first wish to ensure that this war is ended. This, we believe, is the best and fastest way to end it.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #202 on: April 02, 2019, 04:29:31 pm »

Some thoughts.

This turn I'd want to do the following:
- finish teufel (1d6 - 2 PP)
- pay maintenance (10 PP)
- equip all squadrons with Teufels (10 PP)
- revise machine gun from last turn and hope it both works and is free to replace the current MGs we have, given they're designed to be interchangeable in the slot without much work.
- revise the Drachen to fix the landing gear issue.

We could also, then, do the following:
- improve SBD.II dodging in some way, most likely by fiddling with the control surfaces.
- revision the trommel into something useable.
- start work on a new thing, and not fix the landing gear instead.
- use the rest of he dice to advance the Drachen, but that would infringe on the 6 PP budget for revs.

If the army / navy agree to fund the research wholly, we can focus on reducing the cost for the Drachen. You should include that in the pledge, Madman. I'd like to imagine it being direct progress. Like 1d6 per turn from the branch helping. 2d6 if both branches head for it. Then we could focus on lessening the cost for the Drachen, because reducing the research cost doesn't do much without us getting more funding. We still lose dice on it, which is expensive, and lose PP we could be spending on more adderbolts.

Things we can do right now to make the Drachen better:
- fix landing gear
- make two-row Teufel to boost power significantly and increase either maximum load, enabling it to move faster and get to the objective much more often.
- working on the trommel autocannons for ground support roles
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #203 on: April 06, 2019, 02:44:51 am »

Well, I suppose I'll start voting then?

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No Design (1): Jilladilla


Also, remember that we did get a special offer this turn; of those Shirohon pilots with the bomber aircraft who'd be willing to sign up temporarily but seem to have issues (and/or the other way around) with the normal Shirohon pilots. Yes I know that I'm massively understating it.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #204 on: April 06, 2019, 11:58:45 am »

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No Design (2): Jilladilla, Madman
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #205 on: April 06, 2019, 08:29:31 pm »

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #206 on: April 07, 2019, 02:57:19 am »

Wellsegment System
A new manufacturing method which uses folded lengths of corrugated steel fixed together makes sturdier aircraft frames easy to repair, as most replacement parts can be manufactured on the spot with a set of standardized cutters and benders and a supply of corrugated steel. Planes built from Wellsegments are a step further from the canvas, wood, and wire designs of the past, and a step towards a metallic future.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #207 on: April 15, 2019, 07:42:27 am »

Design Phase, Early Summer 1916

Roheshmiede-Dehnert "Teufel" (4 die spent, 2 die rushed)

Progress: 29+1+ 30/30. 14 PP spent

After a long grueling time of filing paperwork and finding a few good factories to produce the engine en mass, we finally have finished the teufel, annoyingly, at a far to slow pace than we would have liked. Still, its finally finished and ready for the airforce to use and really that's all that matters, isn't it? Regardless, this month likely will be one of sorrow for the Prens...Speaking of, this has helped our work on the Drachen quite a bit...



It is now the Revision Phase. You have 4 die remaining to spend on Revisions or Save for the next turn.

Once you have a voted up plan for what you want out of the council meetings, and also what you are willing to suggest to get that, I'll have the first round of negotiations with them for you...that and at the moment I can't make the first round of council negotiations.

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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #208 on: April 27, 2019, 03:21:30 pm »

Quote from: Conference Submission
Formal Request For Continued Interservice Support
As noted by all forces recently, air power has become a crucial component of war. Naval forces and ground forces are still key at actually taking territory, but with the support of our air power they are capable of a level of performance unobtainable without our assistance, yet unthinkable without their own dedication to the defense of our nation.

Recently, we have begun to decimate Pren Gwyn positions and nearly managed to eliminate their air force as a meaningful competitor to our own. They are, however, beginning to catch up, as is inevitable. Our enemies are sadly not fools, and could not allow their air forces to be completely destroyed. In order to maintain our advantage and continue to push back the enemy, we require additional aid in engineering new planes, help in moving designs into prototypes and prototypes into production. Presently the Drachen project is a promising means to transition our air power from a primarily reconnaissance and defensive role to a more offensive one, in which we are capable of taking the fight directly to the enemy, destroying their artillery, ships, and railroads, leaving them vulnerable. Just vulnerable enough, perhaps, for the Army and Navy to get the breakthrough they need to shatter the stalemate and send the Pren Gwyn running back to their capital.

In order for the Kaiserliche Luftjager to continue to provide support to the other arms of the military, we require the finishing of the Drachen project as fast as possible, and an increased budget when the time comes, so we can rapidly deploy the new aircraft to the fronts where it is needed most. We request engineering expertise from the Army and Navy for the short term so that the Drachen project will be completed, and request funding from both arms for when the project is finished and we need to build Drachens. Drachens funded by the contributions of either arm will be dedicated to fronts and tasks as requested by the arm that funded them (with the advice of our tacticians on how they may best be able to provide support), as we wish to aid the rest of our military in striking decisive blows.

(Clarification: We want to get some form of free progress on the Drachen, as much as possible, and offer guaranteed support to any arm that funds a unit of Drachens. In exchange, we are directly aiding the other arms and not pushing for an equal position as a true branch of the military, which would presumably mean we'd be getting some of their funding or whatever.)

The Luftjager believes that air power cannot fight wars on its own, and while we do hope to earn our place as a fellow branch of the military we first wish to ensure that this war is ended. This, we believe, is the best and fastest way to end it.

OK, well, I guess it's finished now? I hope nobody has anything to add since we're moving along now.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Empire of Schwarzes Holz - Kaiserliche Luftjäger
« Reply #209 on: April 27, 2019, 08:46:29 pm »

Schwarzes Holz Streitkräfte Council Negotiations, Day 1

The meetings over the current state of the war and plans on what goals should be reached by the end of next year has begun in Großartige Flussstadt, a city not too far from the capitol, and it is overseen by the highest ranking admirals and generals. This all takes place in a mansion built years ago that eventually found its way into the possession of the state and made into a headquarters for military affairs, and inside it, the Luftjäger are given a decent set of rooms, though while its not the luxurious rooms that the higher ups in the army or navy get, it is the kind of rooms that the officers and minor generals get, so its clear that the military respects your work and recognizes it as at least somewhat valuable...Especially considering all but the highest Bureaucrats for the more civil side of things basically got a single closet with a bed to sleep in...

Once everyone had arrived and was accounted for in the noon, the first meetings would begin in the dining room turned war room, where upon for the first five hours there was nothing said other than speeches on how the empire would be victorious, how important it is to devote resources to make sure it is ended as soon as possible, and on the bravery and valor of those in the armed forces. And its quite likely some of those were specifically directed at those civilian bureaucrats... Still, once the time for inspirational speeches was over, the navy and army quickly went on to their plans, why they deserved more funding than the plans the army had, and while there are are plenty who try and work together with their naval or army allies on what they are doing and how to defeat the prens together, there seems to be a not so subtle tug of war over who gets the bigger chunk of the states resources.

While this seems to be going on. There are plenty of chances to get in the thick of the negotiations, and quickly, one of the engineers would join in this bit of tug of war, mostly to aid in the construction and deployment of the ambitious Drachen project.
Quote from: Conference Submission
Formal Request For Continued Interservice Support
As noted by all forces recently, air power has become a crucial component of war. Naval forces and ground forces are still key at actually taking territory, but with the support of our air power they are capable of a level of performance unobtainable without our assistance, yet unthinkable without their own dedication to the defense of our nation.

Recently, we have begun to decimate Pren Gwyn positions and nearly managed to eliminate their air force as a meaningful competitor to our own. They are, however, beginning to catch up, as is inevitable. Our enemies are sadly not fools, and could not allow their air forces to be completely destroyed. In order to maintain our advantage and continue to push back the enemy, we require additional aid in engineering new planes, help in moving designs into prototypes and prototypes into production. Presently the Drachen project is a promising means to transition our air power from a primarily reconnaissance and defensive role to a more offensive one, in which we are capable of taking the fight directly to the enemy, destroying their artillery, ships, and railroads, leaving them vulnerable. Just vulnerable enough, perhaps, for the Army and Navy to get the breakthrough they need to shatter the stalemate and send the Pren Gwyn running back to their capital.

In order for the Kaiserliche Luftjager to continue to provide support to the other arms of the military, we require the finishing of the Drachen project as fast as possible, and an increased budget when the time comes, so we can rapidly deploy the new aircraft to the fronts where it is needed most. We request engineering expertise from the Army and Navy for the short term so that the Drachen project will be completed, and request funding from both arms for when the project is finished and we need to build Drachens. Drachens funded by the contributions of either arm will be dedicated to fronts and tasks as requested by the arm that funded them (with the advice of our tacticians on how they may best be able to provide support), as we wish to aid the rest of our military in striking decisive blows.

(Clarification: We want to get some form of free progress on the Drachen, as much as possible, and offer guaranteed support to any arm that funds a unit of Drachens. In exchange, we are directly aiding the other arms and not pushing for an equal position as a true branch of the military, which would presumably mean we'd be getting some of their funding or whatever.)

The Luftjager believes that air power cannot fight wars on its own, and while we do hope to earn our place as a fellow branch of the military we first wish to ensure that this war is ended. This, we believe, is the best and fastest way to end it.

The speech actually seems to be well received, and quickly gains the support of a decent amount of the admirals and captains of the navy who were present, on the condition that more powerful radios are made for the craft so that it can utilize its range more in a recon roll and one squadron is deployed in the western or central front for naval search. Additionally, a admiral puts forth the idea of possibly using it as an 'areal torpedo boat' and convinces a few others to offer to support the creation of an areal torpedo for the use of the air force in exchange for another squadron to be deployed with the recon one as to be used similarly to how Fischfänger and Löwe Geschwader are currently at least, though obviously they'd appreciate more.

The army meanwhile seems to be interested, though not as much as the navy. They make a request that if they are to support the production of the design they want at least four squadrons bombing the Prens army within six months (or two seasons) of the projects completion along with proper recon for their targets for at least a season. While some seem...adamant about rushing the production of the aircraft to get revenge on the Prens for their own bombing campaign, there are a few more sympathetic generals who say they are willing to negotiate exact terms for this.

After a bit more discussion, there would be a break for dinner, which would actually take place out side in the back yard, mostly due to the simple fact that it wouldn't be wise to eat and drink on top of all the maps and it would be quite a hassle to move everything around. Interestingly enough however, while eating, one of the civilian bureaucrats would come over and ask if perhaps you could spare a squadron to more civilian duties, specifically air shows like you had done once before. They cite it might be a good way to get funds directly from the people instead of taking more of the national budget, and at the very least if you don't take the money yourself it could be useful to get the army or navy more friendly to you.

After dinner, some more minor things are talked about back inside, such as some complaint about how helmets and life jackets are still not standard issue for the army and navy. Otherwise, nothing particularly note worthy or at least relevant to the air force is spoken about outside some talk the members of the army and navy have among each other about what you have suggested before the day is declared done and everyone has some time to relax before going to sleep for the next day of planning, convincing, and debate...But for now there is the opportunity for the Luftjäger to come up with new proposals or replies to existing ones tomorrow.
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