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[Superdorf]

XCOM headquarters lay in ruins.

The attack had come without warning, an alien battleship breaking orbit and flying straight towards the top-secret site.  Fighters were scrambled to meet it, but it was already too late.  Under intense fire from interceptors and ground-based defenses, the battleship dropped off hundreds of soldiers: sectoids, thin men, mutons, even the dreaded cryssalids and cyberdisks.  As it finally fell from the sky a burning husk, it gave one last act of defiance, its main guns carving a hole in the mountainside: a path straight into XCOM HQ.

Casualties were high, but contingencies were executed to the letter.  Key personnel and equipment were evacuated from the moment the battleship broke orbit, while soldiers and base security held the line in a fighting retreat.  As air support from nearby air bases arrived, air superiority was regained and the evacuation began in earnest.  While the base was lost, much of XCOMs equipment and personnel was saved, relocated through several US military bases before finally making their way to a backup site, far from prying eyes.

Now begins the process of rebuilding, recruiting, and most importantly, finding out how, exactly, the aliens knew exactly where to strike.

Not-So-Beginner Mafia 6

Welcome! Not-So-Beginner Mafia 6 uses the current Beginner's Mafia setup, but lacks the teaching aspect and beginner requirements.  Also, LYLO/MYLO end times are handled the way other days are handled.

Spoiler: Rules (click to show/hide)

• Voting - Votes are cast in red and should include the name of the targeted player. Other colors may be ignored. 4maskwolf, 4mask, 4mawo, and MASKMASKMASKMASKMASK, are all acceptable ways to cast a vote if the target is clear enough.
  
  • If you want to remove your vote, you may put unvote in red text. You must explicitly state this to remove your vote. You may put the name of the player you are unvoting in red after the unvote, e.g., unvote 4maskwolf, but it is not required.
  • If the day ends with two or more people having the same number of votes, the day will end with no player being lynched.
  • It is also possible to vote for a no lynch to explicitly end the day without a lynch.
• Death - When you are dead, you are prohibited from posting in the thread. You may make a single 'bah' post after you die, however, it must not contain any game-related information.
• PMs - PMs between players are prohibited. You may freely PM the moderator to ask game-related questions, however, what the moderator may reveal is limited.
  
  • Do not quote any direct correspondence with the moderator, including role PMs and rule-related queries.
• Edits - Editing posts is prohibited. Do not edit your post for any reason, even if your post comes out as a train-wreck of formatting, spelling, punctuation, and/or grammar. The preview button exists; use it.
• Replacements/Activity - If you find yourself unable to play, you may, and should, request a replacement. We may try to talk you out of it if it's for any other reason besides you not having enough time to play.
  
  • Prods may be requested for a player. If they have not posted in the thread within 24 hours, excluding weekends, they will be prodded.
  • If you stop playing altogether without notifying me, you will receive a warning after 48 hours, and a forced replace after 72 hours.
  • Please be active. The greatest killer of beginner games is poor activity.
• Day/Night Length - Days will last 72 hours. Nights will last 24 hours, or until all night actions are received. Weekends are not counted in terms of day or night length. E.G., if a night starts at 12:00 PM Friday, it will end at 12:00 PM Monday.
• Extensions/Shortens - A player may vote for an extension to increase the length of the day. It requires >33% of the current number of players to request an extension for an extension to be granted. A player may also vote for a shorten. It requires >50% of the current number of players for a shorten to be granted. Extensions increase day length by 48 hours, while shortens will immediately end the day as soon as possible. There are only two extensions per day, with other extensions being granted at the moderator's discretion for special reasons.
  • Votes for extension/shorten are done in boldface. Extend, Extension, Extend it up yo, Shorten it out y'all are acceptable ways to vote for an extension or shorten
  • Extensions or shortens can be opposed. Opposition to extensions or shortens are done in boldface. Oppose Extend, Opposition to the Extension, Oppose Shorten, are acceptable ways to oppose an extension or shorten. Oppositions count against the total number of votes for an extension or shorten.
  • Extensions count as opposition to shortens. Similarly, shortens count as opposition to extensions.
  • Extensions, Shortens, and Oppositions will be counted and processed by the moderator in the order that they are cast.
• External Participation - While the game is ongoing, if you are not a player, an IC, or a mod, refrain from posting in the thread.
  • Play to win! There is no hopeless situation, so don't ever give up. And remember, be bold! You learn nothing and you gain nothing by holding back.
• Miscellaneous - Use of cryptographic hashing is not permitted.  If you want to have hidden/obfuscated messages in your posts for later use, come up with them using your own wetware.

Spoiler: Potential Roles (click to show/hide)

Vanilla Townie - A member of the town with no special abilities.
Vanilla Mafioso - A member of the mafia with no special abilities.
Cop (Town) - A cop may choose to inspect a single player during the night and learn that player's alignment.
Jailkeeper (Town) - A combination of a Roleblocker and a Doctor, a Jailkeeper both protects and blocks the target from acting during the night.
Role Cop (Mafia) - Much like the Town Cop counterpart, the Role Cop investigates a single other during the night to learn their role, instead of their alignment.

This is still an experimental setup

The only role that receives the success of their results in this setup is the Cop and Rolecop. All other roles are not informed if they were successful or not.

One of the following setups is used:
1. 1 Mafioso, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Jailkeeper.
2. 1 Mafioso, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop.
3. 1 Mafioso, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Jailkeeper.

Spoiler: Role PMs (click to show/hide)

I'm told we're going to have a bit of an XCom theme this game! The role PMs have been altered from the usual a mite to reflect this.

You are the perfected form of the "thin man", a reptilian species undergoing heavy genetic modification to infiltrate and sabotage the human populace.  Unlike many of your brethren, you blend in seamlessly with humans, a feature which made you perfect for the most important job of all: bringing down XCOM.

When the base was evacuated, XCOM made a crucial mistake.  The device your fellow infiltrator used to contact the Elders was mixed in with other equipment and brought to the new site, and with everything in disarray now is the perfect time to strike.  Unfortunately, you have both been caught up in a sweep to find the traitors within XCOM, sequestered away in a locked section of the base until your guilt can be determined.  If enough of them were to die, though, perhaps you might find an opening to sneak away...
You are Mafia. You have access to the shared night kill of your faction. You may talk privately with your ally [In a secret topic held on Quicktopic.com which will be visible to only you and your ally.]

Win Condition: You win when the town faction has equal or less players than your faction.

You are the perfected form of the "thin man", a reptilian species undergoing heavy genetic modification to infiltrate and sabotage the human populace.  Unlike many of your brethren, you blend in seamlessly with humans, a feature which made you perfect for the most important job of all: bringing down XCOM.

When the base was evacuated, XCOM made a crucial mistake.  The device you used to contact the Elders was mixed in with other equipment and brought to the new site, and with everything in disarray now is the perfect time to strike.  Unfortunately, you have both been caught up in a sweep to find the traitors within XCOM, sequestered away in a locked section of the base until your guilt can be determined.  If enough of them were to die, though, perhaps you might find an opening to sneak away.

To aid in your task, an Elder, one of the psionic overlords of the Ethereal Collective, put you through an excruciating regimen of psionic augmentation.  Against all odds you survived, and came out the other side with minor psionic powers not possessed by any other of your kind.  The direct link forged between you and your patron allows you to, with a great deal of time and concentration, detect psionics in others, a trait that may very well come in handy in the coming days.
You are Mafia. You have access to the shared night kill of your faction. Each night you can inspect another player to learn their role. You may talk privately with your ally [In a secret topic held on Quicktopic.com which will be visible to only you and your ally.]

Win Condition: You win when the TOWN faction has equal or less players than your faction!

You are an XCOM soldier, recently recruited into the clandestine organization.  Like the other recruits, you represent the best of the entire world, all gathered into an elite strike force dedicated to combating alien black ops.  When the assault came, you fought to hold the line, barely making it out with your life.

Unfortunately, your recent recruitment has cast doubt on your loyalty to the cause.  Orders came down from the top, isolating you and eight other recruits in a sealed off wing of the new base.  There's food, water, and rooms to sleep in, but if there really are traitors among you, then none of you have any time to waste...
You are Town.

Win Condition: You win when all members of the Mafia faction have been eliminated.

You are an XCOM soldier, recently recruited to participate in the group's most secretive project.  During the screening process you were flagged as someone with potential psionic aptitude, and quietly diverted to be one of the first group of psionic humans.  You underwent weeks of augmentation and training, receiving implants directly in your brain and being pushed to your limits physically, mentally, and emotionally, but by the time you were done it was like a whole new layer of reality had opened to you.

Before you could truly begin to test yourself and your newfound abilities, the alien attack struck.  Against your protests, you were among the first personnel evacuated, bundled into an armored car and rushed away from headquarters as soon as the battleship fell.  In the time hopping between bases, you've begun to explore your talents and found you have a knack for telepathy.  When the potential traitors were isolated from the rest of the base, you were secretly placed among them, in the hopes that your nascent psionic powers will help find who the traitors are.  Until you choose to say something, you're just another one of them, and perhaps things are better that way: the traitors may not appreciate having a psion in their midst.
You are Town. Each night you can inspect another player to learn their alignment.

Win Condition: You win when all members of the Mafia faction have been eliminated.

You are an XCOM soldier, recently recruited to participate in the group's most secretive project.  During the screening process you were flagged as someone with potential psionic aptitude, and quietly diverted to be one of the first group of psionic humans.  You underwent weeks of augmentation and training, receiving implants directly in your brain and being pushed to your limits physically, mentally, and emotionally, but by the time you were done it was like a whole new layer of reality had opened to you.

Before you could truly begin to test yourself and your newfound abilities, the alien attack struck.  Against your protests, you were among the first personnel evacuated, bundled into an armored car and rushed away from headquarters as soon as the battleship fell.  In the time hopping between bases, you've begun to explore your talents and found you have a knack for telekinesis.  When the potential traitors were isolated from the rest of the base, you were secretly placed among them, in the hopes that your nascent psionic powers will help prevent the traitors from executing any escape plans.  Until you choose to say something, you're just another one of them, and perhaps things are better that way: the traitors may not appreciate having a psion in their midst.
You are Town. Each night you can guard another player to prevent them from acting and protect them from night kills.

Win Condition: You win when all members of the Mafia faction have been eliminated.

Players:
1. Naturegirl1999
2. IcyTea31
3. dolores
4. TricMagic
5. Pooka
6. kingawsume
7. Questorhank
8. IonMatrix
9. hector13

Replacements:
1.

Though no public announcement was made, orders were passed down the chain of command to nine soldiers: Central Officer Bradford wished to speak with them for debriefing following the attack.  Provided with the orders were directions to his new office, in a far-flung wing of the new XCOM headquarters.  One by one, the soldiers made their way there, forming a quiet queue outside the closed office.  As time wore on, small talk started up among those waiting, and it came out that all nine were supposedly scheduled for their meeting at the exact same time.  Growing suspicious, one of the them knocked on the door to the office.  A few minutes and no response later, they grew bold enough to open the door and invite themselves in.

Central was not inside.  Instead, there was an empty desk with a memo detailing their situation.  They were all suspects in an ongoing investigation into the attacks on XCOM HQ, and would be isolated from the rest of the base and cut off from communications until the investigation had completed.  In the meantime, they should take note of any suspicious behavior they believe would aid in the investigation.

The first day of lockdown has begun.
The game has begun! It is now Day.

Not voting: dolores, hector13, IcyTea31, IonMatrix, kingawsume, Naturegirl1999, Pooka, Questorhank, TricMagic

Day One ends on 2019-09-10 18:00 EST.
Extension is available, requiring 4 votes.

[TricMagic]

Bottom of the page Superdorf.  For future reference.

[dolores]

bruh who makes the start of the game a new thread
hector13 you owe me lunch money
Which of these nerds who I haven't played with before (ion, hawk,nature,pooka) should I actually expect conventional play from and which ones am I going to have to wring blood from a stone to get to vote?
TricMagic what day would you claim if you were the cop?
Naturegirl ask pooka a question. I'm going to make you the target of my D1 lynch (scum notwithstanding) if I'm not satisfied with the quality of the content you're able to produce from it
IcyTea31 assuming you're scum, would it be wise to anticipate that you'll intentionally disrupt the flow of the game so that it stalls and dies from a lack of activity, a la bullying webadict into chucking a hissy?
kingasume Questorhank IonMatrix
Tricmagic why'd you feel the need to make this a seperate post

Bottom of the page Superdorf.  For future reference.

instead of including it in an actual post like you'd expect someone to do. Were you not intending on posting straight away even though the game has started and you're here?
kingasume Questorhank IonMatrix  assuming you're the cop, are you the type of person to try and softclaim cop on D1? Assuming you're noncop town, are you the type of perso nto try to softclaim cop on D1?
I didn't get the alignment I wanted but got the best role in the game instead.
Yes, that means that you can't ask me what role I'd have wanted without rolefishing. Neener Neener

[dolores]

I, er, have no idea how to unlock a locked thread. I've never had to lock a thread before.
Nevertheless, the game has begun! In the interest of moving things along swiftly, I've created a fresh thread here.
Apologies.   

Superdorf Could you copy the potential roles and rules list into the OP of this thread so I can check it here without opening the other one?

[TricMagic]

Cop claim in this game would be as soon as I have information.

[Superdorf]

Superdorf Could you copy the potential roles and rules list into the OP of this thread so I can check it here without opening the other one?

Yeah sure! Sorry about the-- ah-- hiccup. 

Bottom of the page Superdorf.  For future reference.

Thanks.

[dolores]

Cop claim in this game would be as soon as I have information.

Even with something like an innocent report on a player who's not really under heat? Is the intention to try to force claim/counterclaims to a point or do you actually think it has merit in and of itself?
You going to look to counterclaim cop claims if you have no information?
Any reason you decided to post a one line answer instead on it's own without answering my other question, adding commentary, or y'know, asking questions of your own, TricMagic?

[Naturegirl1999]

@Pooka
Why haven’t you posted yet?

[dolores]

Why haven’t you posted yet?

Because the game started five seconds ago and they're not here
Try again

[Naturegirl1999]

@Pooka
Do you think mass claims are something that should be done early, mid game, or late game? Why?

[TricMagic]

To note, doing other stuff. Hence short posts. Here is a longer one.
Also, in case it wasn't clear, Cop should reveal once they've found Mafia in this game. There are no special gimmicks after all.

1. Naturegirl1999: What are the rules of this game by your reckoning?
2. IcyTea31: Who will you be investigating first, second, and third?
3. dolores: Why such an aggressive start? What are you looking for?
4. TricMagic: Me. It is 5:47.
5. Pooka: Strategy for Day 1?
6. kingawsume: Will you be regularly participating this game?
7. Questorhank: No Questions.
8. IonMatrix: Also No Questions.
9. hector13: Who will you be investigating first, second, and third?




Ninja Naturegirl.

[Naturegirl1999]

The rules are to gather information about the other players to make decisions on how best to win the game based on your role

[dolores]

Do you think mass claims are something that should be done early, mid game, or late game? Why?

So was your plan to just not ask questions if I didn't single you out to see you ask a question?
Do you have any plan to actually ask questions or try to find out who scum is?
Do you have any idea why asking questions about general meta issues with no specific relation to the game is not just unhelpful but actively against the interest of the town?
Did you really get so worried by my threat that you've decided to do nothing else but fuck around with lazily @ing pooking instead of playing a standard game?

Cop should reveal once they've found Mafia in this game.

Cop claim in this game would be as soon as I have information.

These are not the same thing my dude

3. dolores: Why such an aggressive start? What are you looking for?

Scum. How bout you?
I have the opportunity to post. Why would I not take that opportunity?

7. Questorhank: No Questions.
8. IonMatrix: Also No Questions.

But why?
You've posted them again, so you're drawing a lot of attention to the fact that you're willfully not interacting with these players. I get that you copypasta'd a list but you could have just removed the names or, y'know, come up with questions. If these are players you have a nebulous connection to or grasp of how they play, you should be doing as much work here as possible to figure out both their metagame and their alignment from nothing.
Do you think you've got the real estate to rest easy here?

9. hector13: Who will you be investigating first, second, and third?
2. IcyTea31: Who will you be investigating first, second, and third?

So they're cops?
Why identical questions to these two players in particular?
Naturegirl how do you intend to gather information about other players if you never ask them any damn questions

[Naturegirl1999]

I don’t know what questions to ask.

[hector13]

dolores

bruh who makes the start of the game a new thread
hector13 you owe me lunch money
Which of these nerds who I haven't played with before (ion, hawk,nature,pooka) should I actually expect conventional play from and which ones am I going to have to wring blood from a stone to get to vote?

Hey man, if you want to give your money away without setting the terms of paying it back, that's your problem.

I wasn't paying that much attention in the last game played, but Pooka, IonMatrix (I think?) and Naturegirl1999 played in it. Broadly, pooka will play "conventional", presumably 'cause they have some experience of the game. IonMatrix I think is more like Superdorf, there's potential there, if they can get past the flailing noobiness, while Naturegirl reminds me a lot of Tric and TBF, so they'll probably be the one to worry about, which you seem to be aware of anyway.

I assume you mean Questorhank by hawk? Never seen 'em play. Could be amazeballs, could be awful.

Let's find out.

Questorhank: I think you're going to be awful. What do you say about that?

IcyTea31 assuming you're scum, would it be wise to anticipate that you'll intentionally disrupt the flow of the game so that it stalls and dies from a lack of activity, a la bullying webadict into chucking a hissy?

I love you.

Cop claim in this game would be as soon as I have information.

Even with something like an innocent report on a player who's not really under heat? Is the intention to try to force claim/counterclaims to a point or do you actually think it has merit in and of itself?
You going to look to counterclaim cop claims if you have no information?
Any reason you decided to post a one line answer instead on it's own without answering my other question, adding commentary, or y'know, asking questions of your own, TricMagic?

... but you could at least touch me more before dumping me and moving on.

Your focus (beyond me) early on seems to be on the two players I expect will be easiest to mislynch in this game. Why start there?

Tric

To note, doing other stuff. Hence short posts. Here is a longer one.
Also, in case it wasn't clear, Cop should reveal once they've found Mafia in this game. There are no special gimmicks after all.

1. Naturegirl1999: What are the rules of this game by your reckoning?
2. IcyTea31: Who will you be investigating first, second, and third?
3. dolores: Why such an aggressive start? What are you looking for?
4. TricMagic: Me. It is 5:47.
5. Pooka: Strategy for Day 1?
6. kingawsume: Will you be regularly participating this game?
7. Questorhank: No Questions.
8. IonMatrix: Also No Questions.
9. hector13: Who will you be investigating first, second, and third?

I'm not expecting three investigations to have to be made, man.

for serious, though, the newer players. I have enough of a grasp of how dolores and IcyTea play to trust my gut with them.

How come IcyTea and I get the same question? Do you expect our answers to differ that much? PPE: ninja'd by dolores. Should I just let you speak for me in future?


IonMatrix: how do you intend to get us out of RVS?

kingawsume: you're the mafia rolecop, how will you narrow down in the thread who to inspect during the night?

Pooka: What did you learn about the site meta on B12 in the last game that will help you narrow down your reads list in this one?

Naturegirl1999: Did you learn anything in the last game? If so, what, and how do you expect it to help you in this one?

IcyTea: At what point would you be bothered by me ignoring you completely?