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[hector13]

Are hammers not in effect right now? ‘cause no lynch was technically hammered. Or does it not work for the no lynch? Or is it everyone

no lynch

T’be fair... well I don’t care that much to share my thoughts. Either it’s NG or one of you two win on round 1. gg.

[Persus13]

"I guess No Lynch technically counts as a hammer." the undead king says grumpily.

No Lynch has been hammered! Night 2 has begun and will end at 8 PM EDT on Thursday March 26th. (I'll be busy during that time, so it'll go long a few hours)

[Persus13]

The sun rose, with one fewer in your ranks.


dolores has died, dolores was a Redirecter (Survivor) and King Mafia.

You are a Redirecter (Survivor) and King Mafia: You can redirect another player's ability to target another player ("redirect [player] [newtarget]"). You can perform the mafiakill. Actions: Redirect, Kill

Round 2 will begin with Day 3, but first we need at least one more player to join us.

[Persus13]

I'm going to leave this unlocked for now, but revealing information about the round is a no go.

[Naturegirl1999]

Understood

[TricMagic]

Dolores~~~~

Luck was kinda against me, since it came down to the flip of a coin.

[Naturegirl1999]

Do roles change each round? Would a Robot Mechanic (Survivor] be a Robot Mechanic (Survivor) next round?

[notquitethere]

If you survive a round, you stay as the same role you were before (though you a new chance to also be the King Mafia).

[Naturegirl1999]

If you survive a round, you stay as the same role you were before (though you a new chance to also be the King Mafia).

thanks for clarifying

[Persus13]

NQT is correct. I'm leaving the thread unlocked for now until we get a 7th player (TricMagic, dolores, and NQT have resigned up), but I'd like you to keep table talk about the previous round to a minimum, and if you must, only talk about publicly available information.

[dolores]

Persus13
In the event of a 'mafia loss due to stalemate' with two players remaining, what happens to the roles of the players who were alive for the stalemate? Specifically, does the KM lose their KM status (and get a chance at rolling it again) but keep their 'town-role'?

[Persus13]

That's a good question. I can't recall if that scenario came up in a previous King Mafia game. I'm leaning towards treating it as if all players had died, since keeping the roles could result in the scenario repeating itself, but if anyone has a preference otherwise, I'd be interested to hear why.

[dolores]

I'm leaning towards treating it as if all players had died, since keeping the roles could result in the scenario repeating itself

Yeah, a preponderance of unkillable roles pretty much forces later players to bring e.g. grey goo or poisonous roles (which are generally pretty suboptimal for KM) to be able to win as KM. Any setup with two action-immune-townie's can stalemate from D1 if there are no vote-stealing powers since neither of them can win as KM if the other is alive, creating a stable permanent voting block which persists across all setups if roles are kept.
Since the stalemate player's roles are all but known, as well, it becomes increasingly likely that players will rely on them as a metagame object for deliberately setting up future stalemates.
Modkilling everyone alive at the stalemate also avoids 'rewarding' KM or at least sparing them being sent to the back of the queue in livelier games, which I think is an important part of the setup - normally, with even 8 players, dying as KM means 'losing a round' you could have rolled KM.

[dolores]

I didn't comment on it originally because I wasn't thinking of the game as over, but I could feel my soul getting pulled out of my body through my nose on D2. It would have been really disappointing if I won after having my alignment dragged out of me like that because I had a higher-priority rolepower or something.
Not that it's relevant here (I'm sure there's a version of it that works as scum, a la jimposting in WWM), but I suspect a big dip in the quality of my townplay since NSBM6 (not that I'm particularly dissatisfied with PGM3, it's "did nothing wrong" quality) is from not reading past threads as much. Historically, all of my reads were meta reads, and without that I've got nothing but policy plays and an unlynchable status. Ironically, I think this might be a consequence of having rolled scum for the first time (in TM-ByoSM4) and getting out of the habit.
Anyway, what's the plans for this? It's still open, I'm kinda surprised how fully we've got no players here.

[Persus13]

I assumed this is dead. Mafia as a whole has been dying here for awhile, so its not too surprising.