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[Lurker Z]

So I gotta ask, was 'reveal all historical events' turned off for some reason during world-gen? If yes, this entire save is a Jenga tower waiting to collapse. Not entirely dissimilar to normal saves mind you, just much harder to debug, due to the inability to pull numbers from anywhere other than crash logs.

Yes, history was hidden. But once creatures and items are "created", shouldn't they remain historical? That was my belief until now.

Hope there's no need for something drastic.

[Unraveller]

Can't say I've ever had a crash that occurred like this one when reclaiming. It goes straight to desktop as soon as you confirm the reclamation. Generally when we have something like corrupt units you're able to get to the screen that gives you brief text about reclaiming/striking the earth. In those cases I've used Df-hack gui/gm-editor df.global to pause the game then proceed to systematically delete units until the corruption is resolved. Here it is not the case, which leads me to believe it is not necessarily unit related. Conjecture based on my experience thus far of course.

How's your DF-hacking been this playthrough? Anything particularly beyond the average pale?

[Bralbaard]

Wasn't Warshrieks in the same condition? I know there were a few other places affected before with some form of corruption.

Unless there are extra places beyond the aching woods we could probably move on, but if the damage is worse we should revert?

[dikbutdagrate]

Wasn't Warshrieks in the same condition? I know there were a few other places affected before with some form of corruption.

Unless there are extra places beyond the aching woods we could probably move on, but if the damage is worse we should revert?

I actually misread avolitionbrit's post. It appears that only the Hungry Aching Woods is suffering from crashes atm.

By all means, feel free to ignore the billboard I put up. The place is nowhere near as friendly as the billboard makes it appear to be.

I also sort of like the idea that the woods are Ȗ̷̡̲̠͐̈́̈́̀̉͒͋͐͊͋̄͗̚̕͝ň̵̨̞̰͎͖̹̖̫͎̳͗̓͒̈́̀̌͐̎̐̋̍̕͝ä̷̳͚̝̩̹̩̻̮̙͚̭́͂̈̊̽́̈́͌̇͛͒̈͋̈́̕͜͠͠p̸̝̤̩̝͖̄̌̀͗̋̀͑͂͂̐̒̉̎̀̓̚͘p̶̢̧̡̖̘̟̩̥̼̮̝̺͔̹̩̄̏̀̎͂r̷̡̫̥͑͋̎͋͑̀o̵̫͈̮̓̈́̓̃̐̓͠à̴͍̪̪͖̗̝̼͚͔͎̈̾͋̐͘č̶̡̘͇̮̰͚͓̺̼̬̞̳̳͎̺̒͛͑̓̄̈̑͌̕̚͝ͅͅh̵̡̪͔̦̯̮͔̅̀̿̽́͌͜ȁ̶̮̮͈͓̯̟̼͍͚̱̳̀̅̄̉͘̚͠ḃ̸̤̮̼̪̤̹̻̯͉̼̰͎̮̆̄͒͊̈̿̅̈́̔̎̑͗͜ͅl̴̰̎̈́͛̀͆̾̈̎̓̀͌̓̆͘̕ͅę̶̢̛͔̳̪̦̬̺̝̹́̽͂̆̈́͐̀͐̆̾̍͆͘͝ͅ ̵̦̌̍̇͋̿͆͠͠͠

B̸̘̳̳̺̉͛̇̈́̽̑͝͝Ȩ̴͖̮̜͙̠̅́̾̐̅͒͂͒̾́͘͝ͅW̶̡̡̨̗͙͙̥̯͈̱̭͍̓AR̶̡̛̰͈͚̘̙͙̤̖͚̓̑̿̉͌̍̄̒̃̑͠Ȩ̸̗̪͉͖̩̳̰͎̘̀̀͊̃̽̅͊̚͠͠͝ ̴̬͖̖̫̳̟̟͈̮̩͙̖̿!̷̡͖̥̺̺͕̰̖̤͇̇͒

[Broken]

And so the All Devouring Worm claims one more fragment of reality.

The age of death is one step closer.

[AvolitionBrit]

I shall take this as a go-ahead. I shall resume my turn

[kesperan]

There seems to be some weirdness with intelligent undead and werebeasts.

In my last playthrough, an elf weremoose was chopped into bits by my militia, then raised by my friendly polar bear necromancer, and the various body parts regenerated into full elves. They were nameless friendly "elf hollow stalker" NPCs who just stood there doing nothing. I decided to atom smash them to avoid any shenanigans.

Looking at the pics that Dikbut posted, he has a group of nameless friendly dwarf hollow zombies. I suspect those are body parts which have been regenerated by the werecurse into full beings, all of whom won't necessarily have different unit or histfig IDs.

There's also this weirdness:

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This seems to be a female wolf man with the same necromancer secrets as Desli, who got involved in the fight between Desli and "Spongeberp" and who ended up being killed and ressurected several times. I suspect this is a body part of Desli which was regenerated into a wolf man intelligent undead.

Now I am no expert but all this weirdness could be causing database errors?

[Eric Blank]

Those kinds of killed and resurrected critter parts absolutely cause crashes, yes. Maybe delete the offending instances, see how that affects it?

[Bralbaard]

We can probably test it and apply the changes when Avolition drops the save? I don't have time myself

[kesperan]

Those kinds of killed and resurrected critter parts absolutely cause crashes, yes. Maybe delete the offending instances, see how that affects it?

I think Unraveller tried that and couldn't get the game to load to be able to edit the data file.

I guess if it only affects this one fortress it isn't too game breaking, unless the cloned were-zombies start to migrate.

[Maloy]

Remind me not to resurrect Maloy if he ever gets himself killed!

[dikbutdagrate]

Looking at the pics that Dikbut posted, he has a group of nameless friendly dwarf hollow zombies. I suspect those are body parts which have been regenerated by the werecurse into full beings, all of whom won't necessarily have different unit or histfig IDs.

They're former animated undead corpse parts that have grasp tokens, and after being cutdown, we're raised again as intelligent undead. An animated undead corpse that is killed and brought back as an intelligent undead, won't be linked to the original creature. Hence the missing histfig data. And also why I got a notice saying a bunch of my sentient undead dwarves had gone missing.

It appears that the corruption is safely contained within The Hungry Aching Woods.
And I am increasingly enamored by this idea. I say, leave it as is.   

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My offer to act as a NPC vendor for item grafting still stands.
1 honey = 1 item + 1 body part.
You wanna have tree frogs for eyes? Sure! 2 Honeys plz, and done.
Become Tetsuo, the Iron Man today!

[kesperan]

Remind me not to resurrect Maloy if he ever gets himself killed!

That reminds me of something I wanted to try. Chopping off Maloy’s head, resurrecting his corpse and then seeing if it grows a new head when he transforms into a fox.

Infinite wolf man heads! What could possibly go wrong?

[AvolitionBrit]

Sounds like we have a Tomie situation. It will never end, burn them all in fire.

[Maloy]

Remind me not to resurrect Maloy if he ever gets himself killed!

That reminds me of something I wanted to try. Chopping off Maloy’s head, resurrecting his corpse and then seeing if it grows a new head when he transforms into a fox.

Infinite wolf man heads! What could possibly go wrong?

I'm just imagining some bleak future centuries after his death where all that's left of the wolf-man isn't even a name. Just a roaming horde of zombie wolf heads that are a threat to anyone not competent in dodging or fighting lol