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[voliol]

Nope, I'm just using notepad++ and jot down the timestamp when I get tired. I'm sure there are tools, but this is I first time for me as well so I don't know of any.

Well, I'm kind of using a format, but it's just

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T: Toady says something
C: Capn says something and then e.g.

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SFX (Musical Interlude) for the sounds.

[Quatch]

some quick googling shows https://otranscribe.com/ as a simple offline browser tool that has some speed and rewind options. If I succeed at doing some I will post the timestamps covered here immediately. I'll try starting at the 1hr mark.

I tried feeding it into google doc's speech to text but it wasn't particularly successful.

Edit: I've gotten 5min in. Wow, even playing it slow it's hard. Punctuation and such, overtalking, changes of direction.

turning the verbatim transcript such as it is into a readable doc is another layer.

Edit2: Ok, so that took about 2 hours for one pass at 1:00 through 1:21. My hat is off.  https://pastebin.com/D73KUzaZ Didn't do more than correct the most egregious typos of the transcription. The above stylistic choices in presentation and editing need to be made. Should probably review one or two of the old episodes and their transcripts to see how heavily they edited the spoken word.

[butsuri]

In answer to the question posed at about 1h11: it was the Egyptians.  The Egyptians made mastabas.

[Capntastic]

In answer to the question posed at about 1h11: it was the Egyptians.  The Egyptians made mastabas.

You win 100 Points!

[corhen]

I think you can thank me for this... I've had this on my podcast app since the last episode in 2014, and only removed it last week!

Cant wait to listen to the new episode.

[Inarius]

can't wait to read this one

[voliol]

Due to unplanned circumstances I've been computer-less the last few days. Sadly, this means I haven't got much further than at the end of the last week. Basically, I'm planning on cleaning up the first 30 minutes into a "finished" transcript. It is also unclear how much computer access I will have the coming week.

Spoiler: Here are my personal thoughts on transcribing: (click to show/hide)

Transcribing is not impossible to learn. I had no experience prior to this, but I think I'm doing fine. But transcribing is intensive. I personally have a limit of about 5 minutes transcribed content/30 minutes of transcribing before I have to take a break. Your mileage may vary of course, but if you want to try it out, don't fret. Transcribing is also fun.

When transcribing, you have two somewhat conflicting goals: (1) Make the text as similar to what is said as is possible. (2) Make that text as readable as possible.

The first goal is basically about not wanting important details to be left out of the transcript. The DF Talks are also (sort of) official statements, and often quoted to spread information on DF's development within the community. These quotes need to be accurate, and listeners and readers should agree on the content of the talks. My personal philosophy is that the "style" (e.g. figures of speech) should be preserved as well; ideally, the transcriber should leave no trace at all, but being in the credits of course.
The second goal is equally important, especially since a fair portion of the DF talk "consumers" only read the talks, without the audio to back them up. The experience should be pleasant. The dilemma is, how much should you edit the spoken word to make it readable, as intonations, pauses etc. can be difficult to transfer directly without becoming a mess of half sentences and stuttering.

Here are some notes I derived from DF Talk #19, the last one mallocks transcribed (and thus presumably their best). First come some methods I am mostly positive or neutral on, and then some I personally don't really like:

General notes on mallocks' methods:

• '' instead of ""
• "Yes" instead of "Yeah" at the start of Toady's lines (but this is not consequent)
• Contractions are allowed, both really common ones like "that's", "it's", "don't", but also "you'll", "we've" etc.
• "gonna" => "going to" 
• " ... "
• Sentence-start clusters are omitted; even short ones: e.g. "But yeah so" => "So".
• "And", "But", "So" may simply be removed from the start of sentences.
• When a sentence is revised mid-sentence, the parts that don't fit the revised version (gramatically) are omitted.
• Most "sort of", "kind of" are omitted. They are only used where there is uncertainity, not those used as padding, while thinking etc.
• Some "just" are omitted.
• "or something", "and so forth" are generally NOT omitted
• ; allowed, may replace "because"
• Half sentences cut off by the other person are omitted, unless that's what the other person is responding to.
• Repeated whole sentences are shortened to only one: e.g. "The hole is still there. The hole is still there." => "The hole is still there."
• Laughing is not marked.

Methods I personally dislike:

• Some sentences at the end of a "block" are omitted.
• Short responses are generally omitted. (note that Rainseeker is more "chatty" than Capntastic, it miiight be justified)
• Simply too harsh editing, some revised sentences contain information not in the revised version. Mallocks methods removes this information.

[Quatch]

yes, it would be nice to have some officialish guidance on what kind of transcript we're aiming for. Does the community want the ums and such included? They can really change the interpretation of the sentences, but they expand the transcript significantly. Clinodev, any opinion from those endusers?

I'll try and give another go this weekend (will post immediately before and after if I do) (I too just had some unforeseen stuff pop up, so futures are in doubt). I'd recommend that tool I used for anyone else who doesn't already have some method. The keyboard control of the audio was very useful.

[Inarius]

For me it's quite simple. I'm good at reading english, but listening to a badly recorded audio without any video support is not an option, especially when it's more than one hourlong.
So i don't really care about transcript details. I just want to see it

[Sarcastron]

I'm not a hardcore fan, but I've fooled around with it on occasion. Was curious about the development status and tried listening to this. Stopped after maybe five minutes, because I don't have a clue who's talking. Introduce yourselves, please.

[Shonai_Dweller]

I'm not a hardcore fan, but I've fooled around with it on occasion. Was curious about the development status and tried listening to this. Stopped after maybe five minutes, because I don't have a clue who's talking. Introduce yourselves, please.

If you search on YouTube you'll find tons of interviews with Toady (Tarn Adams) where he's introduced and they go over all the usual basic things that regular people don't know about.

This is 23rd in a series of in-depth talks on his own website. Would be just wasting time to go over self introductions again. The only thing you need to know is that the person talking about the game is the person who makes the game. The other one isn't.

[Sarcastron]

Would be just wasting time to go over self introductions again. The only thing you need to know is that the person talking about the game is the person who makes the game. The other one isn't.

Sorry, who are you? Are you involved in this production?

[Inarius]

@Sarcastron : this is a bit agressive

Shonai_Dweller is someone who answer to many of the questions asked on the forum about the game. He is very well informed and know perfectly the game, this kind of people who will actually take time to look far into the past in an obscure reply from Toady, 4 years ago and quote it for you. If you look at the "future of the fortress" post, you will see he is very helpful.
So I would say "yes", he is involved in this production, somehow.

But i suppose this wasn't the real goal of your question, was it ?

[Uthimienure]

Ding, ding, ding!!!

"In the left corner, we have the challenger, hailing from unknown parts, Sarcastron, weighing in at 2 posts in 1 topic... And in the right corner, we have the title-holder, initials S_D, who needs no introduction, weighing in at 7102 posts.  Round 2.  Let the round begin."

(This is all in fun, so please don't take offence!)

[voliol]

I'm not a hardcore fan, but I've fooled around with it on occasion. Was curious about the development status and tried listening to this. Stopped after maybe five minutes, because I don't have a clue who's talking. Introduce yourselves, please.

I suppose it can be difficult to distinguish voices. As an avid listener to the DF talks it comes naturally to me now, but when I first listened I did have some problems.

So anyhow, here's the first 30 (or 28:55) minutes transcribed. They are not flawless by any means, but I've tried my best. I'd describe my methods (of cutting down on the spoken word) as pretty strict, but not as strict as mallocks' - I don't have the heart. Hopefully, this should make listening easier/not required.
Hmm, it did not end up looking good in pastebin... try pasting it into your local text editor. I use Notepad++ but others should be better than nothing.

I will continue by going forward, past the 30-minutes mark, and do not plan to revisit the above before the entire talk has been covered by some kind of transcription. So if you feel like proof-reading and correcting me, or have better ears that can hear what the [??]s are, please do so. Also, I won't be any faster than before (ignoring my computerlessness), so I won't collide with anyone starting at 0:40 or later, as long as it is communicated. I'll be watching this thread