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Author Topic: FBYOR 5 - Game Over - Learning From Disaster, As All Ends In Fire And Darkness  (Read 61377 times)

TricMagic

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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #345 on: October 15, 2022, 02:57:05 pm »

Yeah, just NQT that brought it to full attention. Might need more sleep.

As a question, why is Roden on the chopping block?
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #346 on: October 15, 2022, 03:06:59 pm »

Anything to go off of that TolyK isn't scum besides feeeeeeel?
TolyK has an ability that can steal/neutralize other people's abilities.  It appears he wishes to use this for others and claimed it in one of his only posts.  Additionally, TolyK has stated that he is too busy prior to the game starting.  This appears to be consistent throughout the Day.

Anyway, I've got my popcorn, I'm just here to enjoy.  If we're all set on voting out TolyK, fine, whatever, but I'm going to say I told you so if I'm right, and nobody reeeeeally wants that.

Yeah, just NQT that brought it to full attention. Might need more sleep.

As a question, why is Roden on the chopping block?
I feel like he's acting like BeBYOR 3.  Also, I think anyone that peddles the "webadict defended TricMagic too hard" conspiracy is automatically scummy.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #347 on: October 15, 2022, 03:50:19 pm »

LEAVING STANDBY MODE

ROBO-NQT-1000 has performed necessary maintenance according to its schedule (BST). Now printing Charts.

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Chart_001: Current Vote Web



Chart_001 Analysis

IF TolyK is scum AND given that bussing at this stage is suboptimal, THEN other scum are likely to offer or join an alternative wagon OR standby waiting for an alternative wagon to join. IF TolyK later flips scum THEN attention should be given to players who form alternative wagons from hereon. Roden is currently Wagon #2, with Webadict the second on the wagon.

IF TolyK is not scum, then players who leave it very late to vote are most likely scum, as scum have an incentive not to make enemies and they also want to stay out of the way when town (or third-parties) are in the crosshairs. In this scenario, we might expect to find some scum within Vector, KnightWing, Juicebox, TolyK, and TricMagic, as they currently do not care to influence the lynch one way or the other.

TolyK expressed before the game that they were busy. It is possible they are too busy to play, but they have not said this. In fact they have promised easy to perform action and not delivered.

Theory: TolyK is a Jester and wants to be lynched. They submitted a Jester rolename so they wouldn't have to play past the first day. They revealed a Disable role to encourage players to want them eliminated.

With this high possibility in mind, and in order to facilitate more results: Juicebox, this user is active and paying attention to the thread. Data suggests them likely to be town. There are ~10 hours remaining. A Juicebox{TOWN} would likely cast a vote.

Next Task... sentiment mapping.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #348 on: October 15, 2022, 04:42:39 pm »

Why be willing to vote vector over it? They haven't really promised anything, TolyK has. You shouldn't promise what you have no intentions to deliver.
Voting TolyK or Vector feels pretty lazy to me either way. TolyK has seen hate from a lot of players, Vector has not. TolyK has made claims I feel are not things mafia would say.

Also a question to you as others. Who is scummiest, Roden, NJW, or Webadict?
NJW. Let's follow Jack.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #349 on: October 15, 2022, 04:44:05 pm »


Outstanding tasks: Recent Bug Reports (low priority); Question response analysis (medium priority), Full Vote Web (high priority), EOD Wagonomics (D2 priority). Work will proceed according to cycles allowed and maintenance schedule. This unit does not support parallel processing.

NINJA_POST_PROTOCOL: Toony user confirms hypothesis RE: Chart002 and Chart003 regarding the likely forthcoming push on NJW2000.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #350 on: October 15, 2022, 04:49:37 pm »

I have already made it clear that I am open to this. NJW2000.

I suspect webadict will agree.

I was going to say something about notQT's post, but decided not to.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #351 on: October 15, 2022, 04:54:34 pm »

Uh.


Why are we voting NQT?

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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #352 on: October 15, 2022, 04:56:07 pm »

Uh.


Why are we voting NQT?
We're not?

If you meant NJW, well, I'm open to alternatives if you have a suggestion.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #353 on: October 15, 2022, 05:04:00 pm »

I have already made it clear that I am open to this. NJW2000.

I suspect webadict will agree.

I was going to say something about notQT's post, but decided not to.


I'd be pretty cool with this, as an elim that unsubstantiated would blatantly out scum. Not so keen on TolyK's inactivity though, so going to keep my votes where they are.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #354 on: October 15, 2022, 05:07:40 pm »

@NQT:
Give me townreads for Webadict, Max, Knightwing, Jack, and Tric.

@NJW:
I'd be pretty cool with this, as an elim that unsubstantiated would blatantly out scum.
Those being?
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #355 on: October 15, 2022, 05:08:51 pm »

ScumHunter Pro™ Vote Analysis

- Juicebox has never made a non-RVS vote
- KnightWing has never made a vote despite participating
- Vector and TolyK have not made votes but this is congruent with their non-engagement
- ROBO-NQT-1000's prediction that there could be a push on NJW1000 was instantly proved correct
- ROBO-NQT-1000, TricMagic, ToonyMan, Roden, MaximumSpin have displayed an adequate range of serious targets.
- NJW1000, Jim, and Nakéen have had only one serious target.

Conclusion: Juicebox would be the most informative ejection out of the pool of bad players. KnightWing needs to act.

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NOTE: inferior formatting. Reason: low cycles, poor capacity of ChartMaker_v1.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #356 on: October 15, 2022, 05:14:16 pm »

ScumHunter Pro™ Vote Analysis (cont)
- Webadict has displayed an adequate range of serious targets.
- If NJW2000 is scum and a double-voter, this may say something regarding the scum's composition. Example: there could be a smaller team with conversion, and an early double-vote to compensate for low initial numbers.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #357 on: October 15, 2022, 05:20:11 pm »

Holy shit so much activity. I am not sure how many people notice the pregame, but I explicitly said I didn't have much time in the pregame. So yeah, the passivity isn't malice but just life necessity. I've tried to engage when I could in terms of direct questions, but haven't had time to realistically reread and form a view on people, hence not even voting. I really dislike webadict jumping on any bandwagon just because. There was also someone else, but I'll have to actually read it again.

I recommend someone inspect me this night (if I survive), see that I'm scum, then I can reveal a bit more the next day. I actually have to figure out who's town, though, for any of my abilities to make sense... So I will.
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Shakerag: Who are you personally suspicious of?
At this point?  TolyK.

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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #358 on: October 15, 2022, 05:22:35 pm »

By the way, does anyone happen to have an ability they really really really don't like?
Quick TolK, use Disable!

@TolyK: Since you don't speak Tricanese, you probably didn't realize that Tric was taking you up on your offer. I barely understood it myself, so I don't blame you.

@Tric: Could you confirm that you'd like TolyK to remove your Kill Everything With Fire ability? Then maybe you don't need to vote TolyK?
This is a night action, not a day action. I only had a setup action so far. So I can't take up on offer yet, even if it were explicitly mentioned.
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Shakerag: Who are you personally suspicious of?
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Re: FBYOR 5 (14 / 14) - Day 1 - The Game Begins, Every Drake In Their Place
« Reply #359 on: October 15, 2022, 05:22:52 pm »

Are you third-party TolyK?
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