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Wizis

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Dog's owner has died!
« on: July 16, 2008, 09:55:44 pm »
One of my hunting dog is seriously injured, but his owner is busy resting in a coffin.  Is there any my to reassign the dog?  Can another dwarf heal him?  Another question: do dwarfs or animals die of old age?
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 10:01:02 pm »
Dwarves don't actually heal animals...  The animal care job is the equivalent of "don't and say you did", where the dwarf will gain experience for being around wounded animals, but won't actually do anything.

It should be possible to reassign the dog by just using the "assign hunting animal" option on another dwarf.  And yes, creatures die from old age.  but you're not likely to see dwarves dying of old age any time soon, as it takes at least a hundred and fifty years to do the trick.  And dwarven lifespans average out at about two years.
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 10:27:47 pm »
Quote from: Kagus on July 16, 2008, 10:01:02 pm
Dwarves don't actually heal animals...  The animal care job is the equivalent of "don't and say you did", where the dwarf will gain experience for being around wounded animals, but won't actually do anything.

It should be possible to reassign the dog by just using the "assign hunting animal" option on another dwarf.  And yes, creatures die from old age.  but you're not likely to see dwarves dying of old age any time soon, as it takes at least a hundred and fifty years to do the trick.  And dwarven lifespans average out at about two years.

If they're living that long, you're playing wrong ;)
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 10:35:45 pm »
A quick and bloody experiment says that, no, work animals stay owned even after their owner's death. You can't reassign them. I suggest sacrificing it and burying it in its master's tomb to guard him in the afterlife.
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 12:15:49 am »
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A quick and bloody experiment says that, no, work animals stay owned even after their owner's death. You can't reassign them. I suggest sacrificing it and burying it in its master's tomb to guard him in the afterlife.

I beg to disagree. Admittedly it was in 38c, but I had a dog that lost its owner. I then trained the bugger as a war dog, and was able to reassign him. He went on to kill/help his owner kill 3 goblins before getting a spear through the ribs.
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 12:36:10 am »
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A quick and bloody experiment says that, no, work animals stay owned even after their owner's death. You can't reassign them. I suggest sacrificing it and burying it in its master's tomb to guard him in the afterlife.

I beg to disagree. Admittedly it was in 38c, but I had a dog that lost its owner. I then trained the bugger as a war dog, and was able to reassign him. He went on to kill/help his owner kill 3 goblins before getting a spear through the ribs.

Yes, these were already trained and assigned war dogs whose owner I killed, assuming a hunting dog would work the same way. I didn't try it with a regular pet, though I remember putting orphaned horses and whatnot up for adoption.
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 01:39:30 am »
Quote from: Joseph Miles on July 16, 2008, 10:27:47 pm
Quote from: Kagus on July 16, 2008, 10:01:02 pm
Dwarves don't actually heal animals...  The animal care job is the equivalent of "don't and say you did", where the dwarf will gain experience for being around wounded animals, but won't actually do anything.

It should be possible to reassign the dog by just using the "assign hunting animal" option on another dwarf.  And yes, creatures die from old age.  but you're not likely to see dwarves dying of old age any time soon, as it takes at least a hundred and fifty years to do the trick.  And dwarven lifespans average out at about two years.

If they're living that long, you're playing wrong ;)
I once locked a single dwarf up in a small room and trew food in :) he had a well and everything was allright for him, but I stopped playing after year 8 though.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 02:51:26 am »
Quote from: Joseph Miles on July 16, 2008, 10:27:47 pm
Quote from: Kagus on July 16, 2008, 10:01:02 pm
Dwarves don't actually heal animals...  The animal care job is the equivalent of "don't and say you did", where the dwarf will gain experience for being around wounded animals, but won't actually do anything.

It should be possible to reassign the dog by just using the "assign hunting animal" option on another dwarf.  And yes, creatures die from old age.  but you're not likely to see dwarves dying of old age any time soon, as it takes at least a hundred and fifty years to do the trick.  And dwarven lifespans average out at about two years.

If they're living that long, you're playing wrong ;)
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 04:07:02 am »
I had a few animals attached to migrants and I locked the migrants in my bauxite storeroom to starve. The animals were then considered 'available' in the animal section of the stocks menu. I untoggled their availability and had them slaughtered instead.

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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 07:11:51 am »
Hm... If you swap the slaughter designation around on the animal in question, the 'pet of' indicator goes away. Not sure if that makes them reassignable, but it keeps them from lingering around their owner's death site... Tough to take your Death Pit seriously when it's surrounded by kittens.
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 07:18:14 am »
Quote from: Haven on July 17, 2008, 07:11:51 am
Hm... If you swap the slaughter designation around on the animal in question, the 'pet of' indicator goes away. Not sure if that makes them reassignable, but it keeps them from lingering around their owner's death site... Tough to take your Death Pit seriously when it's surrounded by kittens.

Most DF players would just punt the kittens in too.  ;)
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 08:03:19 am »
But then I wouldn't have blood-drenched kittens!
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 10:16:51 am »
Quote from: Angellus on July 17, 2008, 01:39:30 am
I once locked a single dwarf up in a small room and trew food in :) he had a well and everything was allright for him, but I stopped playing after year 8 though.
I have this hilarious image in my mind of a dwarf in a 10 z-level pit with a well and a butcher shop and every now and again someone chucks a kitten in. He runs out, cuts away the tasty meat, and devours it immediately. There's kitten bones and kitten fat and kitten skin everywhere.
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2008, 10:50:58 am »
Quote from: Boatmurderer on July 17, 2008, 10:16:51 am
Quote from: Angellus on July 17, 2008, 01:39:30 am
I once locked a single dwarf up in a small room and trew food in :) he had a well and everything was allright for him, but I stopped playing after year 8 though.
I have this hilarious image in my mind of a dwarf in a 10 z-level pit with a well and a butcher shop and every now and again someone chucks a kitten in. He runs out, cuts away the tasty meat, and devours it immediately. There's kitten bones and kitten fat and kitten skin everywhere.

Thats a challenge on the wiki. Too bad cats are [BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD].
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Re: Dog's owner has died!
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2008, 01:07:53 pm »
Quote from: Neoskel on July 17, 2008, 10:50:58 am
Quote from: Boatmurderer on July 17, 2008, 10:16:51 am
Quote from: Angellus on July 17, 2008, 01:39:30 am
I once locked a single dwarf up in a small room and trew food in :) he had a well and everything was allright for him, but I stopped playing after year 8 though.
I have this hilarious image in my mind of a dwarf in a 10 z-level pit with a well and a butcher shop and every now and again someone chucks a kitten in. He runs out, cuts away the tasty meat, and devours it immediately. There's kitten bones and kitten fat and kitten skin everywhere.

Thats a challenge on the wiki. Too bad cats are [BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD].

What version are you in, because if you remember [BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD] was replaced in version 39a,b, and c with the ethic system. So if you modify your civilization's ethics, you should be able to butcher dead cats.
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