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Ramidel

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Police Gang Unit
« on: October 17, 2004, 06:37:00 pm »

Is there any in-game difference between a police gang unit and a police officer, or is it just a sign that you're screwing up on cop control?
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Toady One

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Re: Police Gang Unit
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2004, 07:00:00 pm »

I don't think it makes any difference right now, but one of the "short term" goals was to make them a bit more aggressive.  For instance, if you tried to surrender to them, it might have a 50% chance that they can't hear you over their gunfire.
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Re: Police Gang Unit
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2004, 12:19:00 am »

A related issue.  When you date/kidnap/talk to a police gang unit, it would probably be treated as one person, but (to me, at least) the name makes it sound like a group.

Maybe they should be named something different; the game doesn't really support groups-of-enemies-in-one-unit.

[ October 18, 2004: Message edited by: Aquillion ]

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Re: Police Gang Unit
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2004, 03:10:00 am »

Both the "police gang unit" and the "death squad" are supposed to be one person.  I agree -- the names are crap.  Death squadie sounds horrible...  death squad member/trooper is a bit long...  I could formalize the names in a newspaper article, and then it could be anything.
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Re: Police Gang Unit
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2004, 08:19:00 am »

Police SQUAT unit.

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Re: Police Gang Unit
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2004, 10:05:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Aquillion:
[QB]A related issue.  When you date/kidnap/talk to a police gang unit, it would probably be treated as one person, but (to me, at least) the name makes it sound like a group.

On the topic of dating, I think that the whole dating the guard dog needs to be... uhh... fixed.

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Re: Police Gang Unit
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2004, 10:11:00 am »

But if you fix the guard dog, the relation can't move beyond selfish hedonism to the higher, species perpetuation level.  And two species at one pop!
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Aquillion

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Re: Police Gang Unit
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2004, 04:30:00 pm »

Glancing at the code, all those dog/mutant-dating problems could be fixed--er, solved--pretty easily.  You'd just have to make it so you can't talk to anything with an animalgloss, and give suitable messages for an attempt (e.g. barks or howls.)

Although, the idea of the LCS liberating animals or mutants and brainwashing or recruiting them to get revenge on their former masters is appealing...  Maybe just test subjects could be allowed, so the LCS could have two-headed firebreathing anti-genetic-research activists.  But there are still a lot of issues that would have to be handled for it to work out believably.

Also, I noticed that at the moment, killing a guard dog is considered murder both by public opinion and by the law.  While that is a very liberal stance to take, I don't think it makes much sense; and in any case, animal cruelty laws would allow another charge in those really big trials.

Oh, and one last question.  Is there any way for the LCS to recruit a tank?  As far as I can tell, they only pop up during raids, making it impossible to ask them out on dates; and they're always armed, making it impossible to kidnap them.  But I have this feeling there's a loophole somewhere.  You could kidnap them if you damaged them down to less than 20 blood, I think, but they seem to be immune to damage...

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Re: Police Gang Unit
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2004, 07:30:00 pm »

Police Gang Unit or whatever could be changed to Riot Guard or Pawn of Globalization.  But in general, I think that "Police Gang Unit" can stay in the game so long as that Unit has a higher constitution and strength than the average police officer.  It could be balanced out with a penalty on agility and intelligence.  I think that the animals should be dateable.  In fact, there should be a certain place like “forest” in the game where you can recruit animals to fight against the conservative agenda.  I think it would parallel well with Bush’s decision to drill in Alaska.  Death Squad could be changed to Executioner, Hitman, or Assassin.
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