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[Spehss _]

But that's not what the numbers say, Spehss_.

And yes, gun control won't stop all gun crimes, but it'll make them happen less all the same, and that's a good thing.

And the next time a huge spree shooting happens? What will be the solution? It's easy to argue "more gun control". Considering how so far this argument is pushed almost EVERY time some big spree shooting happens, and how there have been regular legislation passed to attempt at "gun control" in the past, logically I think that in the future, every single time an isolated incident of a spree shooting occurs, the solution is more restrictions.

But then what about the spree shooting after that? If the criminals REALLY plan out the shooting then it's not like they'd stop just because of legal gun control. Must need more restrictions. Process repeats. It seems too easy to just completely restrict the rights of citizens like that.

I'm reading about things going on in Europe where people can't even defend themselves or their property without getting some sort of charge for injuring the criminal. Charges for "excessive force" because by protecting themselves, a criminal got hurt "too much" or died. I don't want to see the US get into some situation like that. I don't want to feel powerless or unsafe or unable to even defend myself in a situation where maybe I can't think "am I hurting this criminal too much" before acting.

I'm not even a gun nut. I've never seriously shot a gun in my life. Ignoring that, I already feel really powerless in my life. Seeing in the news all these modern movements restricting speech because of "hate speech" or gun control because "think of those poor kids that got shot by one guy out of millions of nonviolent gun owners" makes me feel even more powerless and helpless in society.

[TheBiggerFish]

Wait no we don't discuss this here.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=158735.msg7045981#msg7045981

[Spehss _]

And now I stayed up too late on the internet again it's 2 am why do I do this.

[Orange Wizard]

Wait no we don't discuss this here.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=158735.msg7045981#msg7045981

Why does it matter where we discuss it? It's not a big derail.

[scriver]

The obvious rebuttal is that the fucker in question was an American, born and raised.

So are you. Born and bred. 100 %.

[Frumple]

... yes? Not sure what point you're trying to make noting it... maybe clarify?

[Orange Wizard]

All Americans are terrorists

[Frumple]

Well, we probably are insofar as our immigration forms are concerned. Anyone that's ever paid taxes (any of them, including sales) in this country has supported an organisation that previously engaged in terrorist acts (and/or other, closely related, activities), at least, which is basically close enough for the paperwork. Bloody paperwork and its comprehensive evaluation of historical acts.

[Yoink]

Shitballs. I go back home tomorrow after some weeks away, and I knew there was a gig I very much wanted to go to the day after, but now I've just realised that there are shows on the following two days that I should really attend as well.

Unfortunately, my bank balance is pretty battered this late in the fortnight, especially after all the money I've had to shell out for train fares (that airport-to-city train is a doozy) and what-not... and I'll no doubt have to spend more before I get home. Being too broke to do anything won't be a very nice welcome home.

Of course, that's basically the story of my life these days.
Maybe I can get a friend to sort free entry for me so I can stretch my money a little further, at least.

[Tawa]

Yaaay pneumonia

[BlackHeartKabal]

Yaaay pneumonia

Oh, wow. Should head to a doctor asap if you haven't already, pneumonia is serious. Get well soon.

Shitballs. I go back home tomorrow after some weeks away, and I knew there was a gig I very much wanted to go to the day after, but now I've just realised that there are shows on the following two days that I should really attend as well.

Unfortunately, my bank balance is pretty battered this late in the fortnight, especially after all the money I've had to shell out for train fares (that airport-to-city train is a doozy) and what-not... and I'll no doubt have to spend more before I get home. Being too broke to do anything won't be a very nice welcome home.

Of course, that's basically the story of my life these days.
Maybe I can get a friend to sort free entry for me so I can stretch my money a little further, at least.

If you're already strapped for cash, you might have to pick and choose what you want to go to. You won't be reminiscing about the shows when you look at the cash you spent to go there.

[Tawa]

Already did, it's not life-threatening or anything. Relatively minor bronchopneumonia. But ughhhh it sucks having this cough.

[scriver]

... yes? Not sure what point you're trying to make noting it... maybe clarify?

Nevermind, I misunderstood Solicite's post and thought he was saying that the mother and other people who comments such are doing it because they are American. I was trying to point out that so are people who don't say those things, like Soli himself, to counter what I saw as a bout of self-cultural loathing.

But on rereading it I realise he was saying that the perpetrator was American born and raised.

[TheBiggerFish]

Wait no we don't discuss this here.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=158735.msg7045981#msg7045981

Why does it matter where we discuss it? It's not a big derail.

It's not the right kind of thing to discuss here, though.

Yaaay pneumonia

As BHK said, doctor. 

Already did, it's not life-threatening or anything. Relatively minor bronchopneumonia. But ughhhh it sucks having this cough.

*hugpats, passes traditional chicken soup*

@Yoink:You really don't need to go to every single one, do you?  But nevertheless best of luck.

[Orange Wizard]

It's not the right kind of thing to discuss here, though.

Seems pretty arbitrary

...

Anyway, cat was sick on the floor and now she's not eating.