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[TomiTapio]

Merging Genesis 3.1 changes to my worlds...

Orcs.png and the rest are in BMP format?
Siegers can come with many 1.3 ton Raptor Dragons?
Saltwater crocodile could use NOPAIN, being ferocious.

Vulture, I have    [SPEED:750][FLEEQUICK]
I have teeth at materialvalue 2.
I call tough teeth "fangs". And tough leather "hide" (prefer short names).
Good call on high pain in nervous tissue. and brain bleeding from 3 to 70.
Maybe add some more vascular to chitin?

More... (I'll do more merging/reviewing tomorrow.)

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I say jagged spear too small at size 400. and javelin too large at 800.
extra space in rocktip bolt and arrow names. Thanks for making those upon request!
Do jagged and bodkin arrows need some more speed multiplier?
Looking at earlier version's weapons I have deduced: material sizes: 150 is 1, 300-600 is 3, 700-800 is 4, 1000-1300 is 5, 1400 is 6.
Did you test whips' [ATTACK:BLUNT:1:20:lash:lashes:NO_SUB:5000]  versus mail and plate? I think blunt supernarrow-1 is supermagic.

reaction_genesis_smelt.txt says "reaction_peat" inside.
Tomatoes still have [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER][UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:3]
I have celery at value 1, poor nutritional content.

I nerf beet juice value from 10 to 2. And dandelion from 2 to 1. Sake from 2 to 4.
mint tea from 20 to 3 (dwarves, remember, not elves). mustard from 10 to 5. mustard oil 20 to 10.
I have pricier moonberries 'n moonshine.
(A decent test is 1. have large fort and much herbalism. 2. from depot view which barrels/extracts/powders are the priciest. Mustard really stood out.)
stonebrew vodka up, vodka must be pricier than ale. same for crystal spirits(cave rum).

purple stalk has [CLUSTERSIZE:5][FREQUENCY:100][GROWDUR:300], hmm, I'd try cluster 3 freq 15.
soy vodka value 2 to 4 I think. The good stuff is 6-10 value.

I have bituminous coal and lignite [MATERIAL_VALUE:2] --for embark.
Cobaltite value up since "It contains up to 10 percent iron and variable amounts of nickel."(wikipedia)
I give petrified wood [MATERIAL_VALUE:2], very decorative.
magnetite to 8, to be like other iron ores.

Lungfish population from 250 to 25
Giant tiger [LIKES_FIGHTING] perhaps?
Giant cheetah    [SPEED:650][FLEEQUICK], running, not fighting endurance. instead of 100kg, "[BODY_SIZE:2:0:180000] --real world 36-65 kg, hmm giant version 3x."

I let scorpion_desert wander into [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM][UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:2], but what is the "rabbit" of the underground?
Turtle, I have added [BIOME:ANY_LAKE].
Grizzly bear, me [BODY_SIZE:3:0:550000] --what only 200kg? fix to 550kg.
black bear [BODY_SIZE:4:0:320000] --grizzly got 550kg max, basic bear gets 320kg.

Raccoon [BIOME:ANY_WETLAND] --to keep swans company
generic macaque female 13kg male 16kg (previous 9kg), and CHILD:1

Whale numbers down, see how many the exported text file lists.    [POPULATION_NUMBER:1:5][CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:2]
Rattlesnake I recommend [POPULATION_NUMBER:2:10] [CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:3] and freq 10 and [LARGE_ROAMING](sand cobra too)
Mammoth [PETVALUE:1500] from 500
Lasse not a mount what with little seal legs and evilness
Seal up from 60kg    [BODY_SIZE:0:0:5000]    [BODY_SIZE:1:0:70000]   [BODY_SIZE:4:0:280000]

Zoo Seal photo by me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomitapio/4809832538/
Bear photo too http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomitapio/930575267/

[omglazers]

Zoo Seal photo by me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomitapio/4809832538/
Bear photo too http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomitapio/930575267/

This is a photo of a seal. And then a bear. Clearly DF related, since TomiTapio's military consists of a bear army backed up by a seal navy.

[Tarran]

Deon.

Deon, I just caught a mistake in the PICKED_TILE of Quarry bushes: The picked tile is ("), which leads to it being completely blank (at least, in the ASCII version). I'm 100% sure that that's the problem, since when I changed it to "34" it wasn't blank anymore.

EDIT: Apparently, the problem still persists for unharvested quarry bush shrubs (but the change in tiles fixed the harvested ones). I'll see if I can figure out the problem.

EDIT2: Found out why, SHRUB_TILE and DEAD_SHRUB_TILE also use the broken (") as their tiles.

Seems like you missed this, since the mistake is included with this update. In short, any tiles picked with a symbol within quotation marks like '"', '|', '^', '(' etc will appear blank, at least in the ASCII version. The way to fix it is replace them with a number, which points to the same symbol.

Ed: Seems to be a problem with carrots picked tile too, changing the "'('" to "40" will fix it.

Ed2: Cucumbers also have the same type of mistake, (They use "')'" as their picked tile when they should use 41).

Ed3: Purple stalks, Glow berries, Crystal canes and Cave chilies also have the same mistakes. Crystal canes also have the mistakes on their shrub tile, and Purple stalks and Glow berries in addition also have the mistakes on their shrub and dead shrub tiles. I'm sorry but I'm too lazy to list the mistakes, use this to fix the tiles to their right number.

[Ladde]

Its morning here in Sweden, as always I am playing alittle DF-Genesis to start my day.
While playing I rememberd a band named 'Finntroll' They are a metalband that sings about Trolls and stuff. Very Nordic-Fantasy themed. You should listen to them if you like the theme, much of the lyrics would be hard to understand if any. But if you know Swedish or something similar, read the lyrics they are quite entertaining.

I think most of them are from Finland-Suomi, but they sing most of thier songs in Swedish, so it adds a nice dialect to thier songs.
Anyhow, I heard a track from thier newest album, its called 'Blodmarsch', translated 'Bloodmarch' (duh)
And as I was building this giant wall surrounding my entrance, this tack came on. And I though, "Yeah, this would be an awesome soundtrack to what I'm doing." It felt really epic.

Just though I'd share this moment of epicness. Cheers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDuw5deK764

[Medicine Man]

3.1?I thought the last release was 3.3 so shouldn't we be on 3.4?

[Tarran]

3.1?I thought the last release was 3.3 so shouldn't we be on 3.4?

The last release wasn't 3.3, it was 3.03, so no, we shouldn't be on 3.4. Not for a while.

[Medicine Man]

Thanks for the info Tarran.

[isabuea]

ive already started quite a happy fort on my old 3.03 version. if i just copy the saved games over will i get the penguins and the fixes in my fort or do i need to re-gen?

[Flaede]

In the stocks menu the various vermin remains are oddly named... when the list is condensed, but not when expanded.
(lizards and other things are all getting listed as "Umber Hulk", and there's a spotted woebegone that is also something else when the list is expanded).

I've never seen this bug before, so I am thinking it may be the Genesis Mod, but I'm not sure HOW it could be the mod. Anyone else see anything like this?

[Deon]

Hurrah, i now have the new version!
Although, there's one niggle, i just extracted it, the file itself has a "last modified" date of tomorrow...
Have you been time travelling Deon?

How else could I make mods, study, work, play games, love my wife and play with my kid?

Orcs.png and the rest are in BMP format?
Siegers can come with many 1.3 ton Raptor Dragons?
Saltwater crocodile could use NOPAIN, being ferocious.

orcs "png" file is not finished, if you look into it I just started to draw them. Orcs now use a quick mock-up graphics which are not terrible but I want better.
Roger that. Crocodiles will get NOPAIN. And I will test why do they get dragon raptors. I will probably make those bigger and semimegabeasts.

Deon, your combat is still bugged. My dwarves are routinely punching werewolves and tearing their skin. On the description page it says that the area hit has been "smashed open".

It's not bugged. Werewolves have much thicker hide. I could play around with the skin elasticity to make different descriptions, I just haven't explored that. It looks like materials have hardcoded "description" of damages depending on their relative and absolute values of parameters, and with high parameters the game considers it to be "solid" enough to shatter and break it. I prefer a bit strange description rather than weak monsters . Just imagine they have a tough hide like a flexible shell.
In extreme cases their muscles can be jammed through internal organs. It's all because of their hardened state.

In the future, I would also suggest that practice weapons which are used at training dummies, similar to the new tomes for skill training also be able to break.

Good idea. I will incorporate it.

I say jagged spear too small at size 400. and javelin too large at 800.

The jagged spear is a goblinoid-type weapon, it may be increased to 500 or 600 but not more.

Javelin is a long nord spear and it should be around 800.

reaction_genesis_smelt.txt says "reaction_peat" inside.
Tomatoes still have [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER][UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:3]

1) Omg. I will change it as soon as possible . It was like that for a long time, thank you for finding it, I just didn't notice it.
2) Okay, fixed.

Other stuff

Mostly incorporated.

3.11 will be out soon. Save-compatible.

(lizards and other things are all getting listed as "Umber Hulk", and there's a spotted woebegone that is also something else when the list is expanded).

I saw this problem and haven't figured out what causes it. However it looks like it doesn't affect anything, so for now it's okay.

[Deon]

Here it is: 3.11 patch.

Just extract the contents of an appropriate archive into your /raw folder. I release it separately to reduce the download size. I will include it in a main download when I make another big update.

Also, anyone can contribute to df-genesis.wikidot.com. Pan already edited the caste section. Come on, help me to fill it, I am a bit busy now and it can greatly help others.

[Tarran]

I feel like I'm being ignored, Deon.

You know why fixing this:

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Deon.

Deon, I just caught a mistake in the PICKED_TILE of Quarry bushes: The picked tile is ("), which leads to it being completely blank (at least, in the ASCII version). I'm 100% sure that that's the problem, since when I changed it to "34" it wasn't blank anymore.

EDIT: Apparently, the problem still persists for unharvested quarry bush shrubs (but the change in tiles fixed the harvested ones). I'll see if I can figure out the problem.

EDIT2: Found out why, SHRUB_TILE and DEAD_SHRUB_TILE also use the broken (") as their tiles.

Seems like you missed this, since the mistake is included with this update. In short, any tiles picked with a symbol within quotation marks like '"', '|', '^', '(' etc will appear blank, at least in the ASCII version. The way to fix it is replace them with a number, which points to the same symbol.

Ed: Seems to be a problem with carrots picked tile too, changing the "'('" to "40" will fix it.

Ed2: Cucumbers also have the same type of mistake, (They use "')'" as their picked tile when they should use 41).

Ed3: Purple stalks, Glow berries, Crystal canes and Cave chilies also have the same mistakes. Crystal canes also have the mistakes on their shrub tile, and Purple stalks and Glow berries in addition also have the mistakes on their shrub and dead shrub tiles. I'm sorry but I'm too lazy to list the mistakes, use this to fix the tiles to their right number.

Is important?

This is why, notice the black spots:

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Who knows, maybe it doesn't happen with DF's normal ASCII and me using Dorten's tileset may be partially to blame. But please fix this with future versions so I don't have to fix this every single time I download the new ASCII version. It's extremely easy to fix, and not time consuming at all, maybe spend a minute or two. All you have to do is visit this page and replace the letters/symbols with the numbers corresponding to their tiles, IE: >'('< with >40<.

Like, for example:

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Code: (Purple Stalks (Bad tile defining method)) [Select]

[PLANT:STALK_PURPLE]
[NAME:purple stalk][NAME_PLURAL:purple stalks][ADJ:purple stalk]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[PICKED_TILE:'|'][PICKED_COLOR:5:0:0]
[VALUE:4]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen royal wine][STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:royal wine][STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling royal wine][MATERIAL_VALUE:5]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:10][DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:0][EDIBLE_RAW][PREFIX:NONE]
[DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILL:PLANT_POWDER_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:purple dye][STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:PURPLE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:30][DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:0][POWDER_DYE:PURPLE][PREFIX:NONE]
[MILL:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:MILL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SEED:SEED_TEMPLATE]
[SEED:purple stalk shoot:purple stalk shoots:5:0:1:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]
[SUMMER][AUTUMN]
[CLUSTERSIZE:5][FREQUENCY:100][GROWDUR:300]
[PREFSTRING:tall stems]
[BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
[UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:3:3]
[WET][DRY][SAVAGE]
[SHRUB_TILE:'|']
[DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:'|']
[SHRUB_COLOR:5:0:1]
[DEAD_SHRUB_COLOR:7:0:0]

Code: (Purple Stalks (Good tile defining method)) [Select]

[PLANT:STALK_PURPLE]
[NAME:purple stalk][NAME_PLURAL:purple stalks][ADJ:purple stalk]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[PICKED_TILE:124][PICKED_COLOR:5:0:0]
[VALUE:4]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DRINK:PLANT_ALCOHOL_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen royal wine][STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:royal wine][STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling royal wine][MATERIAL_VALUE:5]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:10][DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:0][EDIBLE_RAW][PREFIX:NONE]
[DRINK:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILL:PLANT_POWDER_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:purple dye][STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:PURPLE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:30][DISPLAY_COLOR:5:0:0][POWDER_DYE:PURPLE][PREFIX:NONE]
[MILL:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:MILL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SEED:SEED_TEMPLATE]
[SEED:purple stalk shoot:purple stalk shoots:5:0:1:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED]
[SUMMER][AUTUMN]
[CLUSTERSIZE:5][FREQUENCY:100][GROWDUR:300]
[PREFSTRING:tall stems]
[BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
[UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:3:3]
[WET][DRY][SAVAGE]
[SHRUB_TILE:124]
[DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:124]
[SHRUB_COLOR:5:0:1]
[DEAD_SHRUB_COLOR:7:0:0]

[Deon]

I don't know what causes it, it was working before. It must be a new DF bug. Note that glowberries, purple stalks and other plants were made not by me, so it was working for other people too. I didn't ignore you, I just didn't see your post. I will make appropriate changes in the next releases.

[Tarran]

Thank you.

[TomiTapio]

I was thinking more of the throwing Javelin, as in the sport.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin
Romans got Pilum and Plumbata for throwing.
"There is some literary and archeological evidence that the Norse were familiar with and used the javelin for hunting and warfare, but they commonly used a spear designed for both throwing and thrusting. The Old Norse word for javelin was frakka."

Guess one could call the nords' spear "war spear" if it isn't thrown and it is large.