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[ein]

Can Razor bring a motorbike?

The real question that springs to mind is; "Why didn't I submit Dash Gunmetal?" Seriously, he could bring his enclosed motorcycle like from Spyhunter.

Next one man, next one.

[FuzzyZergling]

I think that the acid-blood would be a non-issue, if the contestants attacked each other from a suitable range.

[RAM]

If the alien explodes, and Razor is splashed with acid, Razor wins. Razor is probably sufficiently experienced with unpleasant substances to minimise the acids damage, and is covered with fur, which will aid the effort. Not to mention the vest that can probably be removed quickly, we saw that this was effective in the movie Aliens...

[Shade-o]

Ultimately, it comes down to Aliens being outmatched by well-equipped and trained soldiers. If Razor were dumped without any tools he would have a lot more trouble, but in this case gun > claw.

[Sean Mirrsen]

If he was dumped here as Jake Clawson, without any gear, then even if he would evade the alien's initial attack, he would not be able to kill it with just martial arts.

As Razor though, he would be able to kill it sufficiently easy, again providing he doesn't fall to the same "surprise tail-spike through back" that killed (well, crippled) Bishop in Aliens.

If he's given another three days to prepare, I can see him preparing a set of body armor, and yes, a motion scanner. Now that I look at the second round roster, it's pretty clear that he has at least 3 opponents that his Katscanner would be useless against - Kikaida, the Naga, and the Alien. However, I can see him actually considering Kikaida the biggest threat - being the only opponent that can actually leave him nigh-defenceless with an EMP blast. So, he will likely prioritize equipment hardening, then motion scanner, then armor.

[The Scout]

The tail is harder then diamond. How much equipment can he carry and will he bring?

[RAM]

What part of the first move suggests that the tail is used as a weapon?

[V-Norrec]

Or, since the Alien is intelligent seeing as there is no queen around, it could just continually spit acid at his face.  Even if he gets the goggle off in-time the for the first hit, by that time the Alien could have moved.  Razor would, reasonably, be distracted by his face beginning to melt and getting his goggles off.  The Alien might be able to get off a second acid spit attack then, which would pretty much doom Razor.

Granted, I know nothing about Razor and very little about Alien, but it seems to me if the Alien is supposed to be intelligent he would focus on incapcitating a heavily armed target before going in for the kill.

[Heron TSG]

Not only that, Razor has to find the Xenomorph before he can shoot it. During the night, at least, that would be very hard.

[Jetsquirrel]

What part of the first move suggests that the tail is used as a weapon?

what? we never said that we are limited to the 1st movie attacks. We however do use the alien from the first movie, but aliens are capable of scratching, spitting acid, some funky way of vision and using their own tail as a weapon. In the first part the alien didnt need to use his tail. But HE CAN use it if he needs to

[CJ1145]

The Alien was smart, but it wasn't THAT smart. You're taking a clever, chimpanzee or octopus level creature and turning him into Xanatos.



Note the lack of a tail, a second mouth, and acid blood.

Razor on the other hand is a pro at fighting off all sorts of city-endangering creatures and foes. Remember, the only advantage this alien has to its brethren from the sequel is higher thought processes, and without those the Aliens get mowed down. Even with them I doubt he stands a chance against a soldier who actually knows what he's doing.

[lemon10]

Yeah, razor knows what he's doing, but he has no clue who he's up against which would limit his combat ability somewhat (at least before he starts fighting). and i doubt armor would work against acid (and i don't think he would take a evo suit, which probably wouldn't help very much either), since the acid is apparently capable of eating through hull metal.
and something doesn't have to be that smart to spit acid at something (personally i think once would be enough to incapacitate razor, since his entire face isn't covered by the goggles, even if he was able to get a killing shot off at the alien, the acid would eat away at his face and kill him before he could win the round), or wait till razor is asleep to try to sneak up on him (then spit acid on him).

and cj of course you can't see xantos's tail he's sitting on it 

[CJ1145]

Yeah, razor knows what he's doing, but he has no clue who he's up against which would limit his combat ability somewhat (at least before he starts fighting). and i doubt armor would work against acid (and i don't think he would take a evo suit, which probably wouldn't help very much either), since the acid is apparently capable of eating through hull metal.
and something doesn't have to be that smart to spit acid at something (personally i think once would be enough to incapacitate razor, since his entire face isn't covered by the goggles, even if he was able to get a killing shot off at the alien, the acid would eat away at his face and kill him before he could win the round), or wait till razor is asleep to try to sneak up on him (then spit acid on him).

and cj of course you can't see xantos's tail he's sitting on it 

OK, a valiant effort but several flaws. I could exploit the cracks in your armor with a pick, but I prefer the jackhammer.

If people were THAT debilitated by not knowing who they were up against, every ambush in history would have ended with the defender dead. This is simply not true. I've already explained multiple times that even if the Alien managed to get the drop on Razor (which isn't all that likely given his gadgets and the lack of camouflaging terrain) this one's love of dramatic flair would probably have it hissing for a second or two. That's all Razor needs to eviscerate him from a safe distance.

Another thing, you make no sense when you say he wouldn't wear armor or an environment suit. Those would help immensely. Armor shields him, an evo suit would protect him from, well, the environment. You have yet to say WHY they would help, merely that they wouldn't be very useful. As said before, a false statement.

Finally, the goggles will definitely be valuable. The Alien's acid is stated to be meant for blinding. Therefore, the acid will be going directly for the eyes. If it's precise enough to be used for digging, blinding, etc., it won't be splashing enough to cause real damage to the rest of his face. And the Alien's never met someone it can't kill after the first spit, therefore it likely wouldn't spit again, instead going for melee and subsequently getting his ass kicked.

[lemon10]

from wikipedia:
"An environmental suit is a suit designed specifically for a particular environment, usually one otherwise hostile to humans. An environment suit is typically a one-piece garment, and many types also feature a helmet or other covering for the head. Where the surrounding environment is especially dangerous the suit is completely sealed."

Another thing, you make no sense when you say he wouldn't wear armor or an environment suit. Those would help immensely

he wouldn't wear a evo suit, as i said it would be useless against anyone but the alien. i mean yeah if he is crazy and thinks that the air is made of acid sure, but people only wear evo suits when there is a specific purpose for them (eg space suit in space, diving suit for high pressure underwater, or a hazmat suit for poisons and other dangerous chemicals). in all of the other fights it would be a hinderance since it would slow down reaction time ect. armor would help yeah, but since it can eat through metal, it would eat through the armor pretty fast.

Finally, the goggles will definitely be valuable. The Alien's acid is stated to be meant for blinding. Therefore, the acid will be going directly for the eyes.

Yeah, but there will be a bit of spread on the acid, so it would hit the area around his eyes (so a greater area of effect then the goggles would cover), so the acid would be eating through the goggles, and eating through razor's nose at the same time.

If people were THAT debilitated by not knowing who they were up against, every ambush in history would have ended with the defender dead. This is simply not true.

I think its pretty fair to say, in a one on one fight (with ranged weapons capable of a one hit kill, or with 1 hit kill stealth attacks) with the attacker going in for the kill, the attacker will almost always win, especially if he chooses the area. I think (historically at least thats pretty true). And normally not knowing who your up against isn't that bad, since your always up against normal humans, with pretty much the same tech level, in this almost none of the people are from the same world and timeperiod.

[dragonshardz]

*cough-cough*

NBC suit. Razor would know that he would have a one-in-fifteen chance of going up against the Alien, and I don't see why he wouldn't be prepared for that possibility.

Now, before you say he wouldn't have that sort of thing, keep in mind that this is a guy with a high intellect - he could probably make his own NBC suit that would work better than one he could buy.

Also, your argument for the suit slowing reaction time is invalid - most environment suits, especially NBC suits, are specifically designed to maximize the user's movement range while offering the required amount of protection.

And again, the Alien's acid is meant for blinding, the likelihood that the alien would spit on Razor's chest first is extremely low. You also completely discount liquid dynamics - when the acid hits his goggles, there will be some splash, yes, but as the spit is designed specifically for blinding, the shape of the spitting organ would be optimized to maximize the amount of acid in the eyes and minimize acid that lands elsewhere.

Another reason to wear the NBC suit is that it incorporates medium-strength armor - it's designed to keep soldiers safe from NBC threats while in active battle.