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[Mindmaker]

You really aren't helping your situation, Org.
True, an OMGUS does not have to be scummy, if you find actual reasons for it, which you really didn't.

Anyway, I'll be busy for the next few hours. There'll be another post afterwards.

[NativeForeigner]

Native:

Book, Toaster, Jokerman Do you think Nirur had picked someone to be his brother before he died? If so, who do you think the scum's intended target was?

My interpretation is that his brother was mod-assigned at game start, and we just didn't see it in the flip.  Note that neither of the dead players flipped wincon- I'm guessing Nirur's said "You win if PLAYERNAME wins."  As to the intended target, I have no clue and barely care- NK targeting speculation is a one way trip down WIFOM road.

We now know that his brother was mod-assigned, but if you think NK targeting speculation is useless, then why did you ask Pandar a near-identical question?

[Toaster]

Pandar: To get you talking, and to hear your opinion on it.  I already knew my opinion of it.


Native:  See above.  Why'd you ask the same question that he already asked me?

[Pandarsenic]

Org. Because Org. He's dug his own grave with his own actions, and I doubt anyone can't see why he's earned this vote.

And Toaster, why would you encourage the spreading of WIFOM, and indeed spread WIFOM yourself, by asking that?

[NativeForeigner]

Pandar: To get you talking, and to hear your opinion on it.  I already knew my opinion of it.


Native:  See above.  Why'd you ask the same question that he already asked me?

Because I wanted to see if you would answer it any differently.

[webadict]

Vote Count
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Org - Zrk2, Pandarsenic,
NativeForeigner -
Pandarsenic -
Ottofar -
Zrk2 - Org, Toaster,
Jack A T -
Jokerman-EXE -
Toaster -
Mindmaker -
Book -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -

Not Voting - NativeForeigner, Ottofar, Jack A T, Jokerman-EXE, Mindmaker, Book, Mysteriousbluepuppet,

6 To Hammer. Day Ends Thursday 9 PM Central.

[Toaster]

Pandar:  I'll give you it wasn't a long-thought out question.  Here's one instead:  please tell us for those who don't see it being immediately obvious what Org has done besides be himself?

[Mindmaker]

Well my vote goes to Org for now. Nobody can say that I didn't give him a chance.
My last post for today.

[Zrk2]

Clarification: Brother is mod-assigned. And no, I will not tell you who the Brother is.
Mafia-ally does not know who is Mafia.

Word of god clarifies that even if you are scum, you wouldn't know him, Org. And asking questions would only make available more information for you to deduce from.

[Pandarsenic]

He's done nothing save for place a single OMGUS. In the ENTIRE GAME. And while it'd be nice if Zrk2 did something more than "Explain yourself," Org does this shit all the time and it's not indicative of him BECOMING useful and why is nobody voting.

[Jack A T]

From what I've seen, Org is just Org.  He did get scum, but it was the sort that neither side would know about, so I'm considering that minor when it comes to figuring out whether he's scum or not.

Zrk2, however, shouldn't get away with being as unclear as possible.  Seriously, you're not Org, stop being as clear as him.  Give clear reasons for your vote.  Stop saying that a guy's not explaining himself when he most definitely DID.

Seriously.

Zrk2: Please clarify your thoughts on Org.

Pandar: Other than Org, who do you suspect?

[Org]

I'm pretty sure Zrk and Mindmaker are the worst players.
I think possible scum, at least Mindmaker.
Probably Zrk, whatever. Yes.

Anyway, why are you voting me Pandar.
Well, anyway.

[Zrk2]

I find it better that I read and stuff rather than listen to you bicker about who could be scum or what not. Its not very scummy really, since I am town, and I'd rather do this myself mmmkay?

Pandar, wherefore art thou?
Saint Draze is being pretty audacious, I think thats the word?
Anyway yeah

So, you want no input, because all we do is bicker. Yet bickering can reveal stuff about people that comes out because they are angry and can't keep their cover on.

Okay. I will vote for who I think is scum.
Myself.
Not anyone.

While I respect the right of the king to say who to kill, he should listen to the players because they can make good points.

Mysterious blue puppet has been really quiet lately...


Annnd I am going to shut Up now so I won't dig myself a deeper hole...
I am not good at asking questions...

Deflecting.

While Saint Draze was playing terribly he made a decent point, but Org ignored it, seems like covering for a scumpartner.

-_-
Okay then
Org... You accuse pan of lurking yet the Person who has posted the least is Mysterious Blue Puppet...

Whats up with that then?

He then gets called on it and doesn't respond.

Zrk: You seem very convinced that Org's scum.  In your eyes, his current actions are unusual for him, right?  How so?

I don't have a meta for Org, he just seems to be acting overtly anti-town.

SaintDraze stop being so fucking wimpy. Scumhunt the shit out of this game. Maybe you won't die, and was that a roleclaim?

NINJAS x2!

Hey scumbucket.
Anti-town? herpa derp, I think not.
Because I control the vote, I will not just vote for majority or whatnot. I didn't mean no one input, I mean no one actively try to garner attention in the sense of being like OH LOOK ORG SCUM.
No on trying to garner attention? Then how are we supposed to scumhunt? He's hindering the towns ability to scumhunt here.
SaintDraze is being horrible town if anything. You shouldnt want to lynch someone if they lynch you, WHICH I HAVEN'T YET.

Yeah, I'll probably say who I will probably vote for, list reasons, wait thirty-sixty minutes or so, then vote.

When I begin investigating him he gets defensive. Why?

Then he lynches Saintdraze who was a mafia ally, but as noted in my last post Saint Draze was unknown to the scum, and playing terribly, so he can't use that as a defence either.

[Org]

I really don't see your point. Maybe I am just an idealist with illusions.
Bickering can also get annoying, and I didn't want to be bothered by everyone pointing fingers everywhere, I think I did well enough.
He was deflecting. I don't care what point he made, it was pretty obvious deflecting.
I missed that MBP had been missing.
Usually when people try attacking me with horrible reasoning that they don't even elaborate on, I do get frustrated.

Well, now. Counterpoint!
You are tunneling. You are tunneling very hard.
Not a very good thing to do.

[Pandarsenic]

Pandar: Other than Org, who do you suspect?

Zrk2 for making a generic, meaningless attack.

You for saying Org is perfectly allowed to do what he's doing.