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Lagslayer

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Store the damn soap, already
« on: January 27, 2011, 11:12:24 pm »

I have a bunch of soap and the dwarves refuse to put it in the hospital. It doesn't have nearly as much soap in the containers as I specified, and for some reason, all the soap is in the garbage dump. I don't remember dumping it, but it's not forbidden and I don't have a stockpile accepting soap because of the error spam. How do I get my dwarves to store the soap in the hospital?

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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 11:15:45 pm »

I've never done it by default, but you can set a specific stockpile for it by making a custom stockpile that takes "Bars, misc" or something like that.

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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 11:31:54 pm »

Build coffers,boxes,bags inside the hospital.
Don't make a stockpile in the hospital unless you want job cancellation spam.
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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 12:54:54 am »

Just build more boxes/bags. They'll get to it eventually.
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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 12:57:00 am »

I was trying to avoid the cleaning spam, but I guess I'm gonna have to live with it.

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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 01:30:03 am »

I currently have this same problem with plaster
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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 04:28:10 am »

Your hospital's storage is probably full of cloth and thread.  Order some of that to be dumped to free up space.
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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 04:42:33 am »

Dwarves will FILL all hospital containers to the brim with anything from the list, even if you're past the "fill line" for those items. Cloth and thread is a particularly popular item to throw in there. I always have to periodically forbid/dump all but the hospital designated thread/cloth, because otherwise, everytime someone takes something out of a chest, some other jerk runs in with another bolt of cloth to fill the space. Hopefully, this will be one of the various hospital stockpile bugs to be fixed in the near future.
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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 06:15:31 am »

My hospital is just a bunch of beds, for everything else just create a specified stockpile.
Keeping stuff in hospital is aimed to ensure that there will be something to tend wounded even if clothier goes on sewing spree obliterating  ten-year reserve of cloth. That's never gona happen unless you want really many dresses.
So to make sure your hospital is loaded place stockpile which accepts only splints near it, make sure it's the only one which accepts them. Place your clothing industry relatively close to hospital, probably you should disable auto-loom in work orders.
And finally, soap. Create stockpile that accepts only it, place channels with 2/2 or 3/3's water at every entrance to that stockpile.
That won't stop them trying to grab soap but you'll get only one message per dwarf. If that's still a lot of messages you probably should search for source of contamination.

As for why it ended up in dump, did you have any dumping operations at that moment? Sometimes I find ores different from goblinite or humanite on battlefield because I activate my military in the middle of hauling. I've once seen a dwarf dragging a barrel of booze to battle. My hypothesis is that they didn't drop soap immediately after spamming and proceeded to dump some crap.
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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 09:53:25 pm »

If I were to deconstruct the containers in the hospital, would all the stuff be dragged back to the proper stockpile?

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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 11:04:45 pm »

When you set up a hospital zone, always make sure cloth/thread/splint storage is set at 0. The only thing these settings are good for, is to give your doctors easier access to the supplies(and reserve them, which is important later). If thread/cloth/splints are not stored in the hospital, they will travel to a stockpile to get it.
 In the meanwhile, if a dwarf needs to clean up, will travel to the hospital, in search of soap. If you still have soap in a stockpile, they get confused(dwarf confusion is bad). Since soap in version .16 does not seem to wear out, a few bars will do you. After the coffers in the hospital have your soap inventory stored, then allocate storage for splints. This will free up some bins. After this is done,place more coffers in the hospital, and raise the storage for thread/cloth. Not too high, cause could interfere with your clothiers, since the amount you set is reserved, for the hospital. Plus could interfere ith a moody dwarfs access to those materials

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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 11:18:15 pm »

I was trying to avoid the cleaning spam, but I guess I'm gonna have to live with it.
If you store the soap behind a bath they'll clean themselves trying to get to the soap and you only get one cancellation message.
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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 11:28:48 pm »

I remember reading a suggestion a while back, to make a separate, adjacent hospital zone specifically for soap storage.  I haven't made a fortress since then to actually try it out, but it sounds good.  I also like this bath house soap stockpile idea; it sounds like a more natural bathing solution than forced baths along high traffic routes.
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Re: Store the damn soap, already
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 01:51:06 am »

The only dwarves that won't touch the soap are the ones in your justice system.

Yeah, they know what happens.