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[lordnincompoop]

Ooga ooga my skull was crushed.

Go town!

[SaintDraze]

Thats not what I asked tyberix...

I asked how to avoid such questions...
It was how the Last bm was won by scum, since on day 2 no one really questioned the people who were scum because it would create a WIFoM situation...
I didn't really expect to last D1 so Thats why I quit...

Painiac is just a fellow noob, No matter if he Gmed some games...

I was going to try to do what I did with super on day one, since he really kind of freaked out when super me and him were playing the same game together.

He's not that high on my scum scale.

It's entirely my fault that super got lynched, I really shouldn't have tried to provoke him...
I am going to make sure that his lynch was not in vain...

Japa
A couple of pages ago You posted that you didn't really see any connection between me and super that would lead either one of us being scum or both of us being scum...

I've mentioned before that I was split in my suspicions between Saint and Super,  due to both of them engaging in a pointless pissing contest.

but, since super turned out to be town, that leaves SaintDraze

I've got my eye on you.

Got a specific example of when you changed your opinion Japa?

Painiac

If I do flip town who will you start pressuring?

[Jim Groovester]

I didn't really expect to last D1 so Thats why I quit...

Play to win. Always.

DO NOT GIVE UP EVER. You owe your team not to.

If I do flip town who will you start pressuring?

If you flip town? What, you don't know your own alignment?

I could lynch you for that alone.

It's entirely my fault that super got lynched, I really shouldn't have tried to provoke him...
I am going to make sure that his lynch was not in vain...

Oh, just cut that crap out right now. It's scummy and useless.

If you're scum, you're trying to curry favor by appearing regretful over your mistakes, which is an appeal to emotion.
If you're town, you're doing something completely pointless instead of hunting scum.

You have better things to do than this.

I asked you for your reasons for the scum picks you gave (me and Painiac). What are they?

[Painiac]

Painiac is just a fellow noob, No matter if he Gmed some games...

I was going to try to do what I did with super on day one, since he really kind of freaked out when super me and him were playing the same game together.

What, poke me to see if I get myself lynched for your pleasure? Do your plans on scumchat, you shouldn't be so obvious.

Painiac

If I do flip town who will you start pressuring?

It wouldn't change at all if you DO flip town (which I doubt). I hadn't get read on Ottofar, so I would do some scumhuntin' on him. But yea, Tyberix seems most suspicious after you.

[SaintDraze]

The reasons were not good anyway.

I am questioning right now since I have Nothing at all...
What I did have was Wine and that's it...
Toaster didn't have to take his vote off of me when he was pressuring someone else, FoS is just as good isn't it jim?
And japa was nudged repeatedly to vote before choosing me...
An Idle vote is an idle mind, it felt like Japa wasn't very enthusiastic about the game.


I thought if I were to post "When I flip town" would just look like I am posting "I AM TOWN!!!!"

And to painiac-
After super did spazz out and got lynch I sorta resolved to ditch that plan...

[Painiac]

I thought if I were to post "When I flip town" would just look like I am posting "I AM TOWN!!!!"

And to painiac-
After super did spazz out and got lynch I sorta resolved to ditch that plan...

Oh ye Armok, it is not even scumtell; it is outright claim you are scum. And yea, you thought scapegoating wouldn't work twice?

[Jim Groovester]

I thought if I were to post "When I flip town" would just look like I am posting "I AM TOWN!!!!"

You're right.

You should pretty much avoid direct talk about your own alignment. You should show it through scumhunting, not say it.

FoS is just as good isn't it jim?

Only votes count. Literally, even.

If all anybody does is FoS people it makes me think they're just trying to look active by throwing little blue candies (my metaphor for FoSes) around instead of actually scumhunting.

In the same vein, if all they do is FoS people but never vote them, it makes me think they're cowardly scum, because they're worried that as soon as they take that step everybody will suspect them.

[SaintDraze]

well If it is blatantly obvious if some one is scum shouldn't you keep your vote on them and use your blue vote for a Secondary selection?

I mean what is the point of a FoS then jim?

[Jim Groovester]

To declare suspicion, of course.

But you've done neither.

So I've completely lost track of the point you were trying to make.

[SaintDraze]

To declare suspicion, of course.

But you've done neither.

So I've completely lost track of the point you were trying to make.

Toaster unvoted me, making him suspicious to me.

well Then...
Japa
You feel suspicious to me...
More suspicious then toaster because my reason for suspecting him is faulty and frail.
And your over cautious behavior is kinda scummyish along with your unenthusiasm
What is your plan for going along D2?

toaster
Do you have any scum picks toaster?

[Toaster]

Ottofar:

Sorry guys.
Don't really have an excuse for not posting, except laziness.
Tomorrow.

I'll hold you to that.


Tyberix:  Fair enough in regards to my question.  I would like to see you commit, though- who is worthy of a vote?


SaintDraze:  My picks:  You, Tyberix, and Japa, in no particular order.

You've dropped several scum tells:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=77394.msg2030320#msg2030320  Apologizing for a lynch (Trying to curry favor)
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=77394.msg2030537#msg2030537  Defensive regarding your comment (which is scummy by itself)

...for two examples today.

Japa hasn't said anything since day start.  He was very passive D1 and looks to be getting started off that way today.  I want more from him- my question is unanswered.

Finally, Tyberix seems unwilling to commit.

Ottofar will be on the list if he doesn't deliver.

[Tyberix]

Uh,i'll try to be more useful from now on.

Toaster unvoted me, making him suspicious to me.

well Then...
Japa
You feel suspicious to me...
More suspicious then toaster because my reason for suspecting him is faulty and frail.
And your over cautious behavior is kinda scummyish along with your unenthusiasm
What is your plan for going along D2?

toaster
Do you have any scum picks toaster?

Underlined part : Why you say that ? Want to cover him ?
Bold one : Why ?
Again why you ask others before saying any of your own thoughts ? You avoid being aggressive in my eyes. That's scummy.

well If it is blatantly obvious if some one is scum shouldn't you keep your vote on them and use your blue vote for a Secondary selection?

You got that blatantly obvious pick or this is theoretical question ?

I was going to try to do what I did with super on day one, since he really kind of freaked out when super me and him were playing the same game together.

You mean you want town to look scummy trough "NO U!" quarrel ?

Also why you need to say "i'am town!"? Do you think scum would both attack one person ? Who you find least scummy ? Why you're not attacking your suspects or anyone else?
SaintDraze i taken Jim advice to heart and not assumed you're scum just because super wasn't, but you just keep going with scumtells.

Toaster Who would you inspect right now ?

[Rose]

I'd like to make a second request to be replaced. I only have mild interest in this, and less time.

[Toaster]

Tyberix:  Right now?  Probably Japa, since he's my top pick.  Assuming he got lynched and it went to night, I'd pick quasi-randomly between someone I suspected (Saint, you) and someone hard to read.

[Ottofar]

Three-ish hours 'till post.