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[Leafsnail]

Spoiler: Earlier In The Fucking Game (click to show/hide)

No, but you're picking at irrelevant details about why I don't think Jokerman-EXE is scum.

And it feels like you're trying to maneuver me into a position where you can go "See! He agrees/doesn't deny/has no opinion on some stupid issue! He's scummy!" So naturally I don't really want to answer your questions since I've been perfectly clear about my attitude about Jokerman-EXE from the start and find this whole exercise completely pointless and possibly a trap.

I am good at scumhunting, not townhunting. Why are you making me build a case on why I think somebody is town? That's pointless.

You've been quite clear that you "agree with most everything Jokerman has to say," yes. You've been very opaque as to why. I'm not trying to dredge up every stupid detail I can find, I'm trying to figure out why you think X isn't scummy or why you think Y is a good idea.

I also don't see any reason whatsoever why thinking he's town warrants less explanation than thinking he's scum- if you have an opinion, you should be able to explain it. If I said Zrk2 is scummy but refused to go into details, I imagine you'd think something was up. Since you seem to be doing the opposite with Jokerman, I'm inclined to think likewise.

A descriptive list which provides no analysis on anything is a brilliant alternative to actually answering the points against you.

So...Zrk's only observation on Jimbook is a joke from the start of the game?

And it's worthwhile to point out that Jokerman quoted Org in his sig?

To be honest, he's sort of passed the Noobscum/RiA Event Horizon for me. He fills me with rage, but I'm utterly unconvinced lynching him will do any good.

The very fucking bottom in particular. I seem to have fucking vanished Day 2, so I don't even remember what the fuck was up with that. Maybe I requested a replace but Pandar wouldn't fucking do it.

This answer seems to have some serious fucking implications for the game.  Namely, that you seem to be saying that things you say earlier takes precedent over things you say later, which would suggest that you're fucking moving backwards through time or some bullshit like that.  I'll say it again: you said Zrk2 was being scummy, but still didn't want to commit your unused vote.  Almost as if you were trying to avoid a fucking bandwagon charge against someone you knew was nonmafia.

Well do you not fucking think his near-lynch was justified last time? Has he fucking done anything to fucking convince you that he's town now?

Was he scummy as fuck then?  Yes.
Has he done anything to turn it around since then?  No.
Is the way you're approaching his lynch enough to give me serious fucking doubts about your intentions regarding him?  Yes.

To be perfectly fucking fair, his zombieness helps with that, because we don't know what they fucking do, if he even fucking is one. If not, that's fucking that and I'm fucking quitting.

I'd point out that there are 8 players and probably at least 3 mafia left.  We don't have any fucking freelynches to waste on someone who "might be a zombie".  And then that you didn't advocate this course of action when other players (or indeed Ottofar) claimed zombie.

Also: I fucking quit for the duration of the Royal Wedding 4 day weekend we're having here (friday - monday).  My family is fucking dragging me along again.

[Jim Groovester]

Also: I fucking quit for the duration of the Royal Wedding 4 day weekend we're having here (friday - monday).  My family is fucking dragging me along again.

What, no royal pain in the ass pun?

I fucking quit.

Mod: Vote count?

Meanwhile, Ottofar and Jokerman-EXE and Org and NativeForeigner haven't done jack shit in a while. Not that I'm expecting much out of Org, but what the fuck about the three of you fuckers? Fucking lurker dickwads. Activity's so low in this game it makes me want to not play for a week.

[IronyOwl]

IronyOwl: To clarify the "Earlier In The Fucking Game" bit, how does "he's sort of passed the Noobscum/RiA Event Horizon for me" fucking mean "He's probably not scum"?  Am I fucking misunderstanding it?

I think you fucking are. I meant he had passed the fucking point of terrible nooby scum and entered the realm of just plain fucking bad at this. I didn't think he was a fucking jester, but I thought his scumtells were too fucking egregious to just fucking mean the obvious anymore.

This answer seems to have some serious fucking implications for the game.  Namely, that you seem to be saying that things you say earlier takes precedent over things you say later, which would suggest that you're fucking moving backwards through time or some bullshit like that.  I'll say it again: you said Zrk2 was being scummy, but still didn't want to commit your unused vote.  Almost as if you were trying to avoid a fucking bandwagon charge against someone you knew was nonmafia.

I pointed out that what he was saying sounded fucking scummy, not that I thought he had gone so fucking far as to wrap around and be regular fucking scummy again. I'll also say again that at that fucking point, adding a vote onto him wouldn't have done or not done a fucking thing.

Was he scummy as fuck then?  Yes.
Has he done anything to turn it around since then?  No.
Is the way you're approaching his lynch enough to give me serious fucking doubts about your intentions regarding him?  Yes.

Fair e-fucking-nough, but do you have a better idea? Apart from the fucking obvious of lynching me for going for the easy fucking lynch, that is. You haven't done a whole fucking lot otherwise, so I'm sort of fucking curious what you think aside from that.

I'd point out that there are 8 players and probably at least 3 mafia left.  We don't have any fucking freelynches to waste on someone who "might be a zombie".  And then that you didn't advocate this course of action when other players (or indeed Ottofar) claimed zombie.

Also fair e-fucking-nough, but remember that we don't absolutely fucking know Otto is a fucking zombie, and if he fucking is it's likely some sort of malicious fucking cult. So odds fucking are that we lynch lying fucking scum or figure something out about a fucking cult, or at worst fucking case should probably learn something about the game itself.

I didn't fucking bring this up when Jim claimed because he volunteered, which seemed to make it pretty fucking unlikely that he was standard cult, and also I didn't want to fucking punish people for bringing us fucking information. I think I brought it up when Otto claimed that he might have fucking planned that to get out of his fucking lynch without having to actually do what he fucking said he would, but I'm not fucking sure why I didn't go for him more then. Like I keep fucking saying, I don't think we should lynch Otto just because he's a fucking zombie, but because he's useless, scummy, possibly fucking lying, and if not likely part of a cult whose leader didn't fucking want the night rewound for some fucking reason. That's not quite as fucking good a reason as "he's definitely scum," but fuck if it isn't a decent bargain otherwise.

[NativeForeigner]

Meanwhile, Ottofar and Jokerman-EXE and Org and NativeForeigner haven't done jack shit in a while. Not that I'm expecting much out of Org, but what the fuck about the three of you fuckers? Fucking lurker dickwads. Activity's so low in this game it makes me want to not play for a week.

I've been busy as fuck with class. Been thinking about quitting this shit.

Anyfuckingway, I put most of my damn time today into fucking Vengeful.

[Ottofar]

I'm fucking no longer busy, having received the fucking license today.
I just have my fucking piano lessons, and I'll be reading this again.

If I hear you complain I might as well quit now.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Fuck you Jim, I've been busy. If I quit this game I'll have time to do what I want to do, so don't make me fucking do it.

[Jack A T]

I'm going to be fucking home tomorrow night!

Three people posting about having been busy, while not really doing anything with those posts, pisses me off and makes me wanna quit.  The excuses are fucking believable, though, so meh.

IronyOwl: To clarify the "Earlier In The Fucking Game" bit, how does "he's sort of passed the Noobscum/RiA Event Horizon for me" fucking mean "He's probably not scum"?  Am I fucking misunderstanding it?

I think you fucking are. I meant he had passed the fucking point of terrible nooby scum and entered the realm of just plain fucking bad at this. I didn't think he was a fucking jester, but I thought his scumtells were too fucking egregious to just fucking mean the obvious anymore.

So, basically, you thought he was so fucking scummy that he had to just be a bad fucking player and not a fucking scum?

[IronyOwl]

IronyOwl: To clarify the "Earlier In The Fucking Game" bit, how does "he's sort of passed the Noobscum/RiA Event Horizon for me" fucking mean "He's probably not scum"?  Am I fucking misunderstanding it?

I think you fucking are. I meant he had passed the fucking point of terrible nooby scum and entered the realm of just plain fucking bad at this. I didn't think he was a fucking jester, but I thought his scumtells were too fucking egregious to just fucking mean the obvious anymore.

So, basically, you thought he was so fucking scummy that he had to just be a bad fucking player and not a fucking scum?

Pretty fucking much. Also I quit.

[Jim Groovester]

So everybody's just lurking then?

That makes it easy for me to do the same.

[NativeForeigner]

Everybody just fucking quit.

Like me.

Fuck you all.

[Ottofar]

Yeah, votecount, please, or I'll quit. For good.

[Jack A T]

...WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE.

Ottofar: Scumpicks?  Why have you been f-ing constantly talking about possibly fucking giving content, without ever giving said damn content?
NativeForeigner: Scumpicks?  What are your fucking thoughts on the current arguments fucking being used against Ottofar and IronyOwl?

THIS IS STUPID.

[NativeForeigner]

NativeForeigner: Scumpicks?  What are your fucking thoughts on the current arguments fucking being used against Ottofar and IronyOwl?

Ottofar's at the top of my fucking list right now because he's been posting, but he hasn't been giving any damn content.

[Jim Groovester]

I like how you tactically omit your opinion about IronyOwl.

Scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum.

Why did you give him the rose? I don't remember.

Blah blah I fucking quit etc. etc.

[NativeForeigner]

Totally fucking missed the entire fucking second half of the damn question. I  basically saw scumpicks and thought "I quit".

I feel the most fucking substantial arguments are those about his damn anti-prod fucking posts. They're every-fucking-where. As for that damn IronyOwl, I'm not sure what to think about the damn arguments. That's why I gave him the fucking rose, because I was having trouble fucking reading him, I wanted to see who he would pass that shit to, so it's a hot-potato timebomb tracking device as someone fucking put it.