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A) Open Warfare: Shoot them as soon as we can.

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B) Cold War: Establish borders, and try to out-grow them.

16 (51.6%)

C) No War: Let's share the solar system.... For now.

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Total Members Voted: 31

[Sheb]

Then I'd suggest sending an Hufuf, as they're cheap and disposable.

[RedKing]

Yeah, but they don't have geo sensors. Here's a design I cooked up that should be similar enough that it could be produced at the same yard as a Hufuf or Mersin without retooling:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Doha class Survey Craft    600 tons     58 Crew     148.6 BP      TCS 12  TH 63  EM 0
7000 km/s     Armour 1-6     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/1     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 3.78 Years     MSP 39    AFR 11%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 4    5YR 64    Max Repair 100 MSP

B'ewed (1)    Power 84    Fuel Use 990%    Signature 63    Armour 0    Exp 21%
Fuel Capacity 15,000 Litres    Range 4.5 billion km   (7 days at full power)

Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Based on mock-up simulations, with a thermal sig of 63, they'd have to have at least 9 tracking stations on Mercury to detect it (assuming no research boosts to sensor strength) within Earth's orbit, and that's only if Mercury is near perigee. It would take 12 stations to detect it within Mars orbit near perigee. If we time a mission to be roughly when Mercury is at apogee, we should be thoroughly safe so long as they haven't left sentries. The Doha should have more than enough speed to outrun anything we've seen so far, the main problem would be a lack of sensors to detect enemies. Could tack on a small thermal sensor (say 0.5 size), although that drops the speed from 7000 km/s to 6461 km/s. Plus, I don't see the observed thermal signature for the enemy classes, so I don't know if that's sufficient range or overkill.

[Sheb]

Here are the last orders I got. Please update them, I'll run the turn tomorrow.

[MarcAFK]

(Posting to watch)  Seriously what's the point of the notify button?

[shadenight123]

(Posting to watch)  Seriously what's the point of the notify button?

a notify button EXISTS!? OH MY GOD.

[MarcAFK]

Nevermind, i just found where the forum hides the notifications.

[Sheb]

9th of February

A new slipway is added on the Benevolent shipyard. Orders are given for a new Hufuf to be laid. Another slipway is also under construction.

20th of February

Much alarm today as a Werewolf was detected moving toward Titan. It soon turned away, and it is now circling round the Asteroid Belt. The Kaffir obviously decided to patrol it to prevent us from moving in!

15th of April
3 Hufufs were finished today. To save on maintenance, they are stocked in the Ashdod's hangar, which is now more crowded than the Great Souk on a market day. (Yeah, apparently there is a bug that let you land more parasites than the Mothership is supposed to handle. The Ashdod now has -28 hangar capacity left. :p I'll RP that as the fact that more FAC can be stowed in the Ashdod when it's not moving, but the extra FACs will have to go out once the Ashdod go somewhare.)

Orders were given for three more Hufufs to be produced.

18th of June
May Allah be praised! Abdul Al-Azred, that some were starting to nickname “The Mad Arab” for his scientific delusions, just proved his worth again. He made the first Ion Engines prototype and say he can design working models. New versions of the B'ewed and Jewad were ordered, as well as new reactors using the Gas-Cooled technology. Our new FACs should be

28th of June
Working overnight, Al-Azred has finished the new B'ewed FAC engine. However, the High Command decide to wait until new armor technology is available to produce the Hufuf Mk.II.

3rd of July
A new Hufuf is built. A new one is laid down.

8th of July
The Jewad-B is finished. New design of the Ashdod and Hebron are created. Again the high command decide to wait for better armor, but preliminary study show the new design can manae 3,000 km/s, going a long way toward closing the speed gap between them and the Kaffir's ships.

18th of July
With the completion of the new Kanwen-B reactor, Al-Azred is now free to pursue research into armor technology. He is promising results by the end of October.

8th of September
Three new Hufufs were completed today, bringing our total to 34. Three more are ordered. They should be finished by the end of January 1545,  exactly when the fifth slipway will be finished. After that, the Benevolent shipyard will be retooled to produce Hufuf Mk.II.

23rd of October
Al-Azred has produced a new kind of armour, a alliage of Duranium and Neutronium stronger than any material known to man. The stronger “Composite” armour allow us to do with less armour weigh for the same protection. Using new engines, power plant and armour, new designs were drafted for approval by the High Council.

Spoiler: New Design (click to show/hide)

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Hufuf Mk.II class Attack Craft    800 tons     82 Crew     115.7 BP      TCS 16  TH 126  EM 0
7875 km/s     Armour 3-7     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 3
Annual Failure Rate: 20%    IFR: 0.3%    Maint Capacity 23 MSP    Max Repair 32 MSP    Est Time: 2.17 Years

Be'wed-B Ion Engine (1)    Power 126    Fuel Use 990%    Signature 126    Armour 0    Exp 21%
Fuel Capacity 5,000 Litres    Range 1.1 billion km   (40 hours at full power)

Anhena'h (1)    Range 45,000km     TS: 7875 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 4.5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Qatela (1)    Max Range: 96,000 km   TS: 4500 km/s     90 79 69 58 48 38 27 17 6 0
Kanwen (1)     Total Power Output 3    Armour 0    Exp 5%

The Hufuf Mk.II is faster and much more armored than its predecessor, making it much more likely to survive until engagment range. It still use the old Power Plant design due to the impossibility to scale the new Gas Cooled technology to the Hufuf's needs.

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Mersin Mk.II class Support Craft    800 tons     56 Crew     132.4 BP      TCS 16  TH 126  EM 0
7875 km/s     Armour 4-7     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 20%    IFR: 0.3%    Maint Capacity 26 MSP    Max Repair 32 MSP    Est Time: 2.32 Years

Be'wed-B Ion Engine (1)    Power 126    Fuel Use 990%    Signature 126    Armour 0    Exp 21%
Fuel Capacity 150,000 Litres    Range 34.1 billion km   (50 days at full power)

K'shaf (1)     GPS 30     Range 1.8m km    Resolution 1

The Mesrin Mk.II was mostly a copy of the old Mesrin with new engines. It also sported a bit more armor, making it a though nut to crack.

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Ashdod Mk.II class Carrier    15,000 tons     677 Crew     1751.2 BP      TCS 300  TH 840  EM 0
2800 km/s     Armour 5-54     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 12     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 900%    IFR: 12.5%    Maint Capacity 1146 MSP    Max Repair 50 MSP    Est Time: 1.77 Years
Hangar Deck Capacity 8000 tons     

Jewad-B Ion Engine (14)    Power 60    Fuel Use 90%    Signature 60    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 300,000 Litres    Range 40.0 billion km   (165 days at full power)

K'shaf (1)     GPS 30     Range 1.8m km    Resolution 1
Beri (1)     GPS 6000     Range 32.9m km    Resolution 120
The new Ashdod is bigger than its predecessor, due to the larger size of the new FACs. It is also better armoured and faster.

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Hebron Mk.II class Destroyer Escort    4,000 tons     416 Crew     527.2 BP      TCS 80  TH 300  EM 0
3750 km/s     Armour 3-22     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 24
Annual Failure Rate: 128%    IFR: 1.8%    Maint Capacity 82 MSP    Max Repair 32 MSP    Est Time: 1.5 Years

Jewad-B Ion Engine (5)    Power 60    Fuel Use 90%    Signature 60    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 50.0 billion km   (154 days at full power)

Anhena'h Turret (3x2)    Range 45,000km     TS: 5000 km/s     Power 6-6     RM 4.5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Qatela (3)    Max Range: 96,000 km   TS: 4500 km/s     90 79 69 58 48 38 27 17 6 0
Kanwen-B Gas-Cooled Reactor (2)     Total Power Output 18    Armour 0    Exp 5%

K'shaf (1)     GPS 30     Range 1.8m km    Resolution 1
The weigh gained by using better armor and power plants was used to fit a fifth engine in the Hebron, making it faster than the Kaffir ships.

23rd of November
A new Hufuf was produced. No more were laid down as the shipyard need to be emptied before being retooled to produce the new Hufufs

8th of December
Al-Azred, cloturing his Annus Mirabilis wrote a treaty on the managing of factories that'll greatly expand our manufacturing capability. He says he want to write another treaty over the correct management of laboratories, that should be ready by the end of next year.

13th of December
Al-Azred was awarded new power by the Caliph, making him even more efficient in his research. He now says he can finish his treaty before October!

[Sheb]

State of the Caliphate

Spoiler: Current Order Of Battle (click to show/hide)

Civilian
1 TT Jizzan
1 CS Mecca
3 FT Matrah
2 GE Mosul

Military
1 CV Ashdod
2 DE Hebron
35 Hufuf
2 Mersin
2 PDC Gi'leh
2 PDC Beirut

Spoiler: Titan (click to show/hide)

Summary


Shipyards


Shipbuilding


Research


Minerals

Spoiler: Technologies (click to show/hide)

Construction/Production
Trans-Newtonian Technology
Research Rate 280 RP
Construction Rate 12

Defensive Systems
Damage Control
Composite Armour
Thermal Reduction 75% normal

Energy Weapons
12cm Meson
Meson Focusing Technology 3
Turret Tracking Speed (10% Gear) 2000 km/s

Logistics/Ground Combat
Command Module
Engineering Section - Tiny
Fuel Storage - Tiny
Troop Transport Bay

Missiles/Kinetic Weapons
Hangar Deck

Power And Propulsion
FAC Engine
Fuel  Efficiency 1, Fuel Usage *0.9
Ion Engine Technology
Gas-Cooled Reactor Technology
Power Efficiency -10%, Power Increase 5%, Exp 7%

Sensors and Fire Control
Beam Fire Control Range 24,000 km
EM sensitivity 6
Fire Control Speed Ration 3000 km/s
Thermal Sensor Sensitivity 6

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Slowly but surely, the LP advance.

[Azkul]

Why is Al-Azred researching Research Rate?

I thought he was researching construction

[Sheb]

He finished construction.

[Azkul]

"He says he want to write another treaty over the correct management of laboratories, that should be ready by the end of next year."

Didn't see that bit.

[Azkul]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Keep adding slipways to Benevolent
Set al-Azred to work on improving Construction Rate after Research Rate is complete
Retool Benevolent to produce Hufuf Mk.II, when possible
Retool Merciful to produce Ashdod Mk.II, and produce one

Are there any planetary bodies near Titan which have enough minerals to be used as productive mining colonies?

[Sheb]

Titania got some minerals. But you've still got more than enough on Titan.

[thobal]

I must demand the commissioning of some kind of high speed, long range reconnaissance craft. Something the enemy cant catch. Right now, you guys must not look good to them.

EDIT:
Or better yet, Drones! Drones with big ass sensors to annoy the hell out of the Mercurians! And then some drones the same size with just enough armament to be dangerous in numbers! That way, these drones can be safely used as decoys when the time comes for a decisive battle. The mercurians will see the drones and believe it to be a ruse, as the drones are always harmless. "Just another crowd of recon drones" but then BAM! Missiles and whatnot pop out of some of the drones! Plus, the drones must never appear alone. Not next to each other during their recon runs or anything. Widely spaced to really take in the inner solar system and keep a single ship from enguaging more than one or two.

As an added benefit to annoying the enemy, this plan should provide us with valuable tactical data on enemy shipping.

Ignore all of this if drones cant be recovered, go with some sort of similar long range fighter.



I think once our tech levels get a bit higher, we should commission a line of Fast Frigates.
That, or some big battlecruiser to outrange, outgun, and outrun whatever the hell they shot at us. Just pound away at it from outside of firing range. A direct response to their design.

IMPORTANT BIT
We still have an advantage. They dont know what our capitol ships are like, so while they are upgrading randomly, we can tune our weapons to match theirs. But we need more data. As sun-tzu put it, "Know thy enemy, know thy self."

[a1s]

That, or some big battlecruiser to outrange, outgun, and outrun whatever

We went into meson tech, which means we can neither outrange, nor outgun (our best bet with mesons is to get as close as possible and have some extra armor so we could take the hits while we wait for their fuel tanks to explode). We could take lasers as a parallel second branch, but that would keep us 1 level behind on both (in actuality, probably a bit less).

Also, drones can't be recovered, no. And I think they're getting the missile-nerf.
Seconding Fast Frigates Destroyers Frigates (oh, hey, alliteration!), but right now (or once we get prototypes of our new engine and reactors, anyway). Take the Hebron, throw away the turrets (be sure to put some 'plain' mesons back), slap on some armor, and maybe an extra engine to make them fast (we'll also paint them Fiery-red).