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Author Topic: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Rise of the Jewel [Game Over]  (Read 113738 times)

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #346 on: September 12, 2011, 07:21:47 pm »

Any reason you decided to inspect Person?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #347 on: September 12, 2011, 07:22:41 pm »

Reading back over the thread, it struck me that I had the least read on him. I figure if I have an inspect, might as well use it on the guy I have the least on.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #348 on: September 12, 2011, 08:01:05 pm »

Wubba: No kills for two nights in a row, and my inspect on you turned up third party. Explain.
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Well, thanks for ruining that, Max.

Fortunately, I can prove I'm not a cult, which is what I'm worrying about (and ridiculously impossible for me if true). I used the Wand of Door Creation on TolyK. He seemed the most likely to be mafia because I have no idea how it's possible for anyone other than TolyK and Simple to be mafia. They're the only two that didn't action N1, so, I assume that Simple delayed TolyK and that TolyK's mafiakills were both blocked by me. It's the only possible explanation.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #349 on: September 12, 2011, 08:05:19 pm »

They're the only two that didn't action N1
He claimed a track on you. Do you have proof of that wuba?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #350 on: September 12, 2011, 08:06:16 pm »

Well, thanks for ruining that, Max.

Fortunately, I can prove I'm not a cult, which is what I'm worrying about (and ridiculously impossible for me if true). I used the Wand of Door Creation on TolyK. He seemed the most likely to be mafia because I have no idea how it's possible for anyone other than TolyK and Simple to be mafia. They're the only two that didn't action N1, so, I assume that Simple delayed TolyK and that TolyK's mafiakills were both blocked by me. It's the only possible explanation.

That... Doesn't even come close to proving that you are not cult. It also doesn't explain why you are a third party.
And ruining what? That post was just speculation and dribble.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #351 on: September 12, 2011, 08:06:43 pm »

Actually, no, you cannot prove that. BECAUSE I SAW HIM VISIT YOU.

Which means that TolyK is the cult leader and converted you on N1.

Or you are the cult and converted Simple. Now, which would you rather admit?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #352 on: September 12, 2011, 08:40:02 pm »

No point in lynching either Tolyk or Simple. Although either could be the leader, we are still risking a mislynch, while we Wubba is for sure a third party, so we lynch him, and if he was leader we lynch Simple, otherwise we guess between them.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #353 on: September 12, 2011, 08:42:03 pm »

They're the only two that didn't action N1
He claimed a track on you. Do you have proof of that wuba?
... Wait. I somehow confused TolyK and Orangebottle? Well, shoot. I wrote down the wrong thing in my notes. That was my bad. I mixed up his not posting of his giant post and Orange's not actioning.

Actually, no, you cannot prove that. BECAUSE I SAW HIM VISIT YOU.

Which means that TolyK is the cult leader and converted you on N1.

Or you are the cult and converted Simple. Now, which would you rather admit?
Well, neither of those is true. I'm not cult.

Well, thanks for ruining that, Max.

Fortunately, I can prove I'm not a cult, which is what I'm worrying about (and ridiculously impossible for me if true). I used the Wand of Door Creation on TolyK. He seemed the most likely to be mafia because I have no idea how it's possible for anyone other than TolyK and Simple to be mafia. They're the only two that didn't action N1, so, I assume that Simple delayed TolyK and that TolyK's mafiakills were both blocked by me. It's the only possible explanation.

That... Doesn't even come close to proving that you are not cult. It also doesn't explain why you are a third party.
And ruining what? That post was just speculation and dribble.
Hmm... Well... At the very least, it mostly proves I'm not a cult leader, but I'm not a cult, regardless.

And if you thought a little bit, you'd understand.

No point in lynching either Tolyk or Simple. Although either could be the leader, we are still risking a mislynch, while we Wubba is for sure a third party, so we lynch him, and if he was leader we lynch Simple, otherwise we guess between them.
I'm not cult. I'm. Not. Cult. Lynching me just screws me over. That's all it does.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #354 on: September 12, 2011, 08:47:48 pm »

Hmm... Well... At the very least, it mostly proves I'm not a cult leader, but I'm not a cult, regardless.

And if you thought a little bit, you'd understand.
No, no it doesn't prove that you are not the cult leader.
Maybe you should be trying to explain how you are not cult, instead of just insisting I should think harder. Not my job to come up with some cover story for you. You just keep ignoring the question and repeat over and over that you aren't cult.

But you know what you once said when you were the scum IC of some BM game? You said something along the lines of 'Just keep insisting your not scum until somebody believes you', and look what you are doing now! No substance, just insisting it isn't you without answering for anything.

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« Reply #355 on: September 12, 2011, 08:58:49 pm »

Hmm... Well... At the very least, it mostly proves I'm not a cult leader, but I'm not a cult, regardless.

And if you thought a little bit, you'd understand.
No, no it doesn't prove that you are not the cult leader.
Maybe you should be trying to explain how you are not cult, instead of just insisting I should think harder. Not my job to come up with some cover story for you. You just keep ignoring the question and repeat over and over that you aren't cult.

But you know what you once said when you were the scum IC of some BM game? You said something along the lines of 'Just keep insisting your not scum until somebody believes you', and look what you are doing now! No substance, just insisting it isn't you without answering for anything.
You know what? Fine. Screw this game.

I'm a martyr. I figured it'd be pretty easy to get myself killed if I could lynch some mafia. Unfortunately, no one wants to lynch TolyK, and I thought Dariush HAD to be mafia, since nothing else makes any sense.

I joined this adventuring party assuming I was selling wands to people. Unfortunately, I somehow signed up to join this adventure.

As I traveled deeper into the cave, I suddenly came upon a gem. As I bent to pick it up, I fell over and it smashed itself into my head. Now, I keep hearing some voice. I brilliantly decided that I should off myself in some way to prevent this voice from getting what it wants, but I'm apparently unable to do so myself, so I need someone else to do it.

Fortunately for me, I do get to have one measly power. I can once per game, cause someone to kill me if they have a kill. I figured I didn't need that, so I messed around with my wands. No one killed me. I figured I'd try to block scum in hopes they'd revenge kill me.

Now that I can no longer win, screw you. Done posting.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #356 on: September 12, 2011, 09:03:44 pm »

Yea... The martyr was role blocking the people who he thought were scum. I mean you get NKed just for being in game (Take the last roguelike for example, when nobody listened to you and you were still NKed n1) and you decided that you would try to block these kills you magically foresaw, rather than let them through and hope that one hit you.

No, it doesn't check out. I think your making up bullshit.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #357 on: September 12, 2011, 09:21:28 pm »

Scroll of Command.
Used on Orangebottle.
Random doors popped out everywhere, so I couldn't do anything with OB.
 - Could be his action (roleblock) imposed on me
 - Someone else's action on me
 - Could be a side-effect-thing (passive)

P.S. I'm a transmuter.

Max what did you do?

Hypothesis:
OB + "Good person" = One team
Cult - ?

That's it for now. Yes Darvi, it's midnight here. D:
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Is it ok with everyone if i post an outdated wot?
I used a scroll of teleport last night.
Also, we've been asking you to post your wall since yesterday, TolyK. Do it.


2. Stop being so defensive, grow a pair, and don't be scared to scum hunt because you might be lynched for it, or I will lynch you. I don't care if your case is slightly sloppy, because who knows, it might still work out, but you should at least try.
Max. Stop telling me to force a terrible case on someone.
Instead, I'm going to come up with something different. I did say, "For now." didn't I?

Webadict. That's right. Now, Max's questioning prompted me to take a second look at the end of my case. It's time for round two. Only this time I'm not going to back down like a moron and agree with you that my case is shit. No, I'll expand apon it based on your responses. Which is what I'm going to do right about...

Now.


Yeah, you're right. It IS WIFOM. Of course, it's completely true, and you seem to think I'm some sort of moron. Errr, no, I'm not. Seriously, I'm not stupid, so you can take that bit of WIFOM and assume it's true, seeing as how you literally have no reason not to. You're ASSUMING I do things that are contrary to any meta ever or just plain stupid acts. At least think logically: what would you do if you were scum me? If your answer is "Durr... buddy scumpartner" then you really need a few more Beginner Mafias. Even they wouldn't do that, though.
This is more WIFOM. Webadict, why are you trying to justify WIFOM with  more WIFOM?
How am I supposed to guess how you think? By asking you questions? Lying is easy.

Scum isn't always predictable, wuba.

I could care less if you find Dariush suspicious. I DO NOT. If you find that to be buddying, then you're a moron. Especially if you assume I would intentionally buddy a scumbuddy. Seriously, feel free to lynch Dariush, but I will be voting for TolyK the entire time, because he is far scummier in my mind. Go suck a lemon, unless you want to do more than repeat the lines "Dariush is suspicious." Mostly because Dariush is in no way more suspicious than TolyK. Anyone suggesting otherwise is looking only at Dariush, since, you know, TolyK ISN'T POSTING.
With your recent Dariush vote, you're contradicting yourself. You said multiple times in day one that you thought Dariush is town. Why do you want to lynch a townie?

Also, buddying a scumbuddy is great if you plan on getting lynched, for exactly that reason. Which is, y'know, more WIFOM.

And saying "I like so-and-so" is not buddying. It means I don't want them dead. I can't even tell if you're being serious half the time, because you're misquoting EVERYTHING in an attempt to make me look like scum. I'm not, and if that is the best you can do, then it should come as no surprise that you're unconvincing in respect to Dariush.
So, you didn't want Dariush dead. Suddenly, you do. What changed?

Your reasons for voting Dariush were that Mr. Person curse weaponed him, and there was no kill. Of course! This is a perfectly plausible reason that Dariush is scum! No, not a single person could have lied about their used item. Person and Dariush could be gambiting scum, with a successful scum lynch making Person look even more townie. A scroll of Curse Weapon has a 33% chance of working, thus making it impossible to base a vote on it, considering that none-ing scum is much more likely. Simple could be lying about none-ing. From your perspective, I could be lying(even though I wasn't). Hell, YOU could be scum, bussing your buddy simply because he got a bunch of votes on him.

Essentially, your vote was based on a lot of assumed trust that could only have occurred from the scum's point of view.

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As such, I guess maybe Dariush is scum
This bugs me. You weren't convinced Dariush is scum. Why were you voting for him? If, as quoted above, TolyK is more suspicious than Dariush, why did you lynch Dariush? You could've tried to go after me, Darvi, and Dariush to try and stop our nonsense and vote TolyK.


Hmm... Well... At the very least, it mostly proves I'm not a cult leader, but I'm not a cult, regardless.

And if you thought a little bit, you'd understand.
No, no it doesn't prove that you are not the cult leader.
Maybe you should be trying to explain how you are not cult, instead of just insisting I should think harder. Not my job to come up with some cover story for you. You just keep ignoring the question and repeat over and over that you aren't cult.

But you know what you once said when you were the scum IC of some BM game? You said something along the lines of 'Just keep insisting your not scum until somebody believes you', and look what you are doing now! No substance, just insisting it isn't you without answering for anything.
You know what? Fine. Screw this game.

I'm a martyr. I figured it'd be pretty easy to get myself killed if I could lynch some mafia. Unfortunately, no one wants to lynch TolyK, and I thought Dariush HAD to be mafia, since nothing else makes any sense.

I joined this adventuring party assuming I was selling wands to people. Unfortunately, I somehow signed up to join this adventure.

As I traveled deeper into the cave, I suddenly came upon a gem. As I bent to pick it up, I fell over and it smashed itself into my head. Now, I keep hearing some voice. I brilliantly decided that I should off myself in some way to prevent this voice from getting what it wants, but I'm apparently unable to do so myself, so I need someone else to do it.

Fortunately for me, I do get to have one measly power. I can once per game, cause someone to kill me if they have a kill. I figured I didn't need that, so I messed around with my wands. No one killed me. I figured I'd try to block scum in hopes they'd revenge kill me.

Now that I can no longer win, screw you. Done posting.

Yanno, there's a certain jewel that this group is out to get. And it's linked to controlling people's minds. This is the worst claim ever, because you just claimed having the item that guarantees you being scum, or scum-aligned. There's also a particular item used for misleading cop inspects. It's a common item, the scroll of shapeshift. It wouldn't be too big of a logical hop to figure out that one of your scumbuddies could've used it on you. Though, it doesn't explain why there have been no kills as of yet.

And now, all of a sudden, Dariush was definitely scum. What? Why do you keep changing your opinion on Dariush so rapidly?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 3 - Same Story, Different Day [Day 3] [Need Replacement]
« Reply #358 on: September 12, 2011, 09:35:09 pm »

Wait, Webadict, you want to be nightkilled?

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« Reply #359 on: September 12, 2011, 09:37:40 pm »

Webadict, you said you blocked TolyK because he nonned N1. Then whoops, no it was OB. Then why'd you block TolyK?

Max: TolyK is a most likely cult leader. If he lives he gets to convert more people. He has to die now.

To make sure, somebody else block Think and Wuba.

Wait, Webadict, you want to be nightkilled?

Good news!
You got a kill-item?
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