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Dyret

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She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« on: October 13, 2011, 09:39:18 pm »

So, it's near the end of the first year, and my militia commander doesn't really care about anything anymore, and I have no idea why. She's been suffering from a broken hand since an unfortunate incident with a giraffe a few months ago, but she's otherwise happy, having admired fine doors and what not lately. She was rather upset earlier, pre-injury, after being relieved of duty, but that is way in the past, so my question are:

One, what caused this? Something described as a minor injury? I was under the impression it took some effort to get there.

And two, are there any negative repercussion of this? Is she immune to tantrums, because if she is, I imagine she'll be rather useful down the road.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 09:45:24 pm »

Soldiers get used to death and pain, especially in others. Eventually they just become immune to that sort of thing. Although they can still tantrum, it's a lot harder once they get that trait.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 09:53:10 pm »

They get that personality trait if they get a lot of extreme bad thoughts, like witnessing many deaths and having their dog exploded at the same time they lose their legs and nearly die while complaining of thirst because the doctor is on break.

Like the user above said, it makes them resistant to bad thoughts.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 10:08:00 pm »

Heh, that's odd... she's never really been traumatized.

At least it's one dwarf I won't have to worry about when the good stuff hits the fan.

Thanks, guys.

 
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 10:09:41 pm »

It adds up over time.  A loss of pet here, a broken hand there...  Killing goblins seems to generate it, at least being close to the killing, so older soldiers are almost always not caring.

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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 06:01:18 pm »

Yes, witnessing death and suffering causes this. She'll be more immune to the effect of negative thoughts, but not sure if it causes happy thoughts to be less happy.

Beside soldiers, butchers are also prone to becoming like this. Many injuries harden dwarves too, but not always to the point of not caring anymore.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 06:02:04 pm »

I don't really care about the well being of my dwarves any more.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 06:04:11 pm »

Toady coded in Dwarven PTSD?

That's brilliant.  And sad.  And brilliant.  And sad.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 06:11:03 pm »

Whenever i read the "doesn't really care about anything anymore" line, i instantly imagine a dwarf, sitting alone on a swing set. Just slowly rocking back and forth, somberly staring at the ground, and stopping every once in a while to sigh.

It's mildly depressing.

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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 06:14:23 pm »

I'm all but certain I've seen migrants arrive with this trait, so maybe she started that way?  If not, it must be easy to get for some dwarves, because I have a dwarf or two that's only been in my fort for a month or less with nothing bad happening to them with this trait.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 06:15:53 pm »

Reminds me of the time when one of my masons had her face scratched/gouged out by a troll, and she gained that trait in a single swoop.

Fun times.

Oh, her skull was broken, and most of her face was gouged out.  Including eyes.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 08:10:31 pm »

Toady coded in Dwarven PTSD?

That's brilliant.  And sad.  And brilliant.  And sad.

No, the true brillance/sadness is that someone discovered you can engineer this deliberately in your population by dropping cats into the dining room.  From a height that splatters them.

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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2011, 08:27:03 pm »

Toady coded in Dwarven PTSD?

That's brilliant.  And sad.  And brilliant.  And sad.

No, the true brillance/sadness is that someone discovered you can engineer this deliberately in your population by dropping cats into the dining room.  From a height that splatters them.

Cats? I used migrants.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2011, 11:18:53 pm »

No, perfectly modelling PTSD would mean that once they get the "Doesn't really care anymore" tag, that they have chances of going Berserk/Melancholy/Stark Raving Mad more often due to someone moving furniture near them, sleeping near a workshop or seeing a noble, but raise their chances of going into a martial trance when combat arises/somedorf goes berserk/sees a noble/elves ask them to not cut down trees.
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Re: She doesn't really care about anything anymore
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2011, 11:26:26 pm »

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